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401Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:53 am

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I got round to sorting out the charging issue with BB that left me waiting at the roadside for a few sunny hours for my mate with a pickup back in June. The battery was suddenly flat twenty miles after breakfast on the second day out of a five day tour. It had fired up strong that cool morning. My multimetre indicated 9 volts at the battery. I couldn't bump start the engine. No one I enquired of had jumper cables. It was a lovely early summer day at the seaside on the Washington state Pacific coast. I rang my mate Bob. Then I waited.

Fast forward two and a bit months and it's been a heady summer of riding while BB collected dust to one side of the garage. Out came the tools. I'm feeling much better after a 17 day illness had me sofa bound.

I have a coupla spare 50amp alternators so removed the seemingly defunct unit - no connections were dodgy, nothing loose. I mentioned somewhere, I think, that the baby bottle overflow coolant bottle had split. Sure enough, pink Zerex had trickled down the top of the gearbox and possibly been inhaled at the back of the alt. But the bike always did have a slight running rattle that I thought came from somewhere nearby, but I could never ID it. 

The monkey nuts were intact. I slipped a new set in and as I do, gave the three way metal drive tangs a slight shot of silicone spray. This eases the forward movement as I push the alt to home against the block. Aligned, I tightened the three Allen head screws. Ain't that bottom 7 o'clock one a pain in the arse to get to!? Cables attached, spade connector on, battery in, leads tightened, and held down by the belt & buckle I use like the kewl kids do on their café racers.

12.6 volts wasn't enough from the 12amp AGM so I jumped from an old (ancient) Shorai lithium I had lying round with 13.2v in it. Up she fired and settled into a steady idle. I whacked the multimetre onto the battery posts to see barely 12.75v showing. A quick stab of the throttle and it jumped to 13.9v. A real rev and it peaked at 14.3v. And guess what, no running rattle any longer. That alternator may just have been a noisy one. The drive cup does move considerably more in and out than the other units in my spares supply - a bad bearing, perhaps. The one that went in had barely a mm free play, as normal. I replaced, temporarily, the dozen year old baby bottle with a small sturdy Nalgene-type bottle. A metal replacement is incoming.

I ran the engine through two coolant fan cycles on the main stand. No rattle arrived. Don't those three row radiators take forever to warm up!? Rain is imminent so I didn't dress for a test ride. Perhaps mañana.

A definitive fix?
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402Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:15 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:I got round to sorting out the charging issue with BB that left me waiting at the roadside for a few sunny hours for my mate with a pickup back in June. The battery was suddenly flat twenty miles after breakfast on the second day out of a five day tour. It had fired up strong that cool morning. My multimetre indicated 9 volts at the battery. I couldn't bump start the engine. No one I enquired of had jumper cables. It was a lovely early summer day at the seaside on the Washington state Pacific coast. I rang my mate Bob. Then I waited.

Fast forward two and a bit months and it's been a heady summer of riding while BB collected dust to one side of the garage. Out came the tools. I'm feeling much better after a 17 day illness had me sofa bound.

I have a coupla spare 50amp alternators so removed the seemingly defunct unit - no connections were dodgy, nothing loose. I mentioned somewhere, I think, that the baby bottle overflow coolant bottle had split. Sure enough, pink Zerex had trickled down the top of the gearbox and possibly been inhaled at the back of the alt. But the bike always did have a slight running rattle that I thought came from somewhere nearby, but I could never ID it. 

The monkey nuts were intact. I slipped a new set in and as I do, gave the three way metal drive tangs a slight shot of silicone spray. This eases the forward movement as I push the alt to home against the block. Aligned, I tightened the three Allen head screws. Ain't that bottom 7 o'clock one a pain in the arse to get to!? Cables attached, spade connector on, battery in, leads tightened, and held down by the belt & buckle I use like the kewl kids do on their café racers.

12.6 volts wasn't enough from the 12amp AGM so I jumped from an old (ancient) Shorai lithium I had lying round with 13.2v in it. Up she fired and settled into a steady idle. I whacked the multimetre onto the battery posts to see barely 12.75v showing. A quick stab of the throttle and it jumped to 13.9v. A real rev and it peaked at 14.3v. And guess what, no running rattle any longer. That alternator may just have been a noisy one. The drive cup does move considerably more in and out than the other units in my spares supply - a bad bearing, perhaps. The one that went in had barely a mm free play, as normal. I replaced, temporarily, the dozen year old baby bottle with a small sturdy Nalgene-type bottle. A metal replacement is incoming.

I ran the engine through two coolant fan cycles on the main stand. No rattle arrived. Don't those three row radiators take forever to warm up!? Rain is imminent so I didn't dress for a test ride. Perhaps mañana.

A definitive fix?
cheers
Sound promising…but a wise man would pack a pair of jump leads - just in case. One bitten, twice shy as they say…also Einstein had something to say about madness too. Hope it goes well. I bought a small bike sized set of jump leads for my top box…haven’t had cause to use them yet.


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                              Paul  Big Block K100 - Page 9 905546712

"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 82,818 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (82,684 miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine gone to Dai) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

403Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:45 pm

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I do have a set of bike-sized leads as well as an (older) lithium jump pack with mini leads. Both were securely tucked away in my garage on the fateful day, but wouldn't have been any use that day. The morning sky is grey and threatening but I reckon it'll hold off 'til noon. After brekky I'm gunna run it round a few local roads.


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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

404Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:07 pm

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Born Again Eccentric wrote:
…but a wise man would pack a pair of jump leads - just in case. Once bitten, twice shy as they say…
BAE thank you for mentioning that.
I was very sad to find out that my Eco's battery was DOA the other week.
I had to go and buy the appropriate ones, as, fortunately,  a CTEK female plug was already installed to the battery terminals.

Well, I'm one bud wiser than I was a minute ago cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuI-TtaLR3o


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Cheerz, David

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1997 Peraves Super Ecomobile: a Kevlar reinforced monocoque with outrigger wheels, seating two.
K75 fork, K100 monolever, headlight, indicators, K1100RS gearbox, K1200RS 589 instrument cluster, engine, rear wheel
    

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bad boy wrote:Well, I'm one bud wiser than I was a minute ago cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuI-TtaLR3o
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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

406Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:48 pm

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That old Shorai is in BB. I tried the AGM I had sitting here which seemed to have enough static voltage but once under load she drops too much. Sure, a charge brings it back to a happy number but she can't take the load. Into the recycle pile she goes. I have four old, flat batteries needing to go to the Tacoma tip - Recycling Centre. 

The Shorai, ancient as it is, hasn't complained once, always starts the bike, and bounces back to 13.2v after each use. I have not had to charge it. It's less than 1/3 the weight of the AGM, too. The replacement alternator is reliably putting out 14.2 to 14.3v after the initial rev upon starting to 'trigger' it. Now to open up the failed unit to see if there's anything obviously wrong. I hate to discard a potentially useful future spare.


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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

407Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:04 pm

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While devouring a fresh, hot stack of blueberry pancakes, made yesterday morning by my loving partner, I puzzled over the type of coolant overflow container for Big Block. I'd run out of Vermont maple syrup and was reaching for the spare bottle in the pantry when it hit me. What better way to recycle whilst also celebrating the first two years in the USA back in the '70s!? Brattleboro, Vermont to the rescue!
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A bit of rubber as a cushion at the base and we're golden, fluffy as a pancake, and Bob's yer uncle. Test ride later.  Wink


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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

408Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:33 pm

Dai

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Ya need to change the colour of yer coolant.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

409Back to top Go down   Big Block K100 - Page 9 Empty Re: Big Block K100 Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:35 pm

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Dai wrote:Ya need to change the colour of yer coolant.
Treacle or golden syrup was not a colour option for antifreeze...but, we don't want the kids mistakenly drinking it so pink it is.
drunken






It's Zerex, for my Audi, and last for ages.



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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

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This aluminium 800ml tank will be here in a few days, so the 'pink' will be hidden. 
Cool


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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

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A good day for a test ride. Here in the village of Steilacoom, near Chambers Bay, the Puget Sound.

The motorbike performed admirably. All systems go once again.
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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

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