153 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat May 14, 2011 3:25 am
Guest
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OG, are you in or close to Portland? I did a stint at Portland Motorcycle Company from 2000 to 2004, the original owned by Dave Hillis on SE 82nd Avenue and then a coupla years under the new owners, the Pauls before they moved into their big new digs near the airport. They've got one of the bestest BMW parts guys anywhere in Jim Callaway and Steve Neilson, the Kiwi, is a salesman there still too, I believe. I did three months during the summer of '07 at the newer shop over in Tigard too. I like Stumptown. Good coffee and good beer. Bit wet and cold for my bones in Winter though. Cheers.
BTW, those engine covers look the biz!
BTW, those engine covers look the biz!
154 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat May 14, 2011 11:12 am
Oldgoat
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Wow, small world TWB. Jim has been a HUGE help with his vast experience with the bikes! When its something challenging I always want to get his experience and opinion on things.
OG
OG
155 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat May 14, 2011 11:14 am
Oldgoat
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Looking at getting an adjustable timing light so I can get the timing dialed back in once everything goes back in the engine. Anyone have experience with the harbor freight light?
http://www.harborfreight.com/timing-light-with-advance-40963.html
OG
http://www.harborfreight.com/timing-light-with-advance-40963.html
OG
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157 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 9:17 pm
charlie99
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hiya og ..there is suposed ...or was at one time a gaitor around the fork legs which mounted to the fairing (like a big bladder thingy ) ...i remember seeing a pic one time ...but ive never seen them on a real bike .
i mounted my relays on a piece of metal and used the horn mounting bolt behind the left hand side pocket
cables that came from the fuse box etc are tied to the fairing mounts , using this tecnique there is no cable movement ....dont mount things with cables attached to moving parts mate.
i mounted my relays on a piece of metal and used the horn mounting bolt behind the left hand side pocket
cables that came from the fuse box etc are tied to the fairing mounts , using this tecnique there is no cable movement ....dont mount things with cables attached to moving parts mate.
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158 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 9:18 pm
Crazy Frog
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This is where you mount the rubber boots (on a RT).
They keep the inside of the fairing dry, but at the same time they restrict the air flow. I replace mine, but the next time I will simply remove them.
CF
They keep the inside of the fairing dry, but at the same time they restrict the air flow. I replace mine, but the next time I will simply remove them.
CF
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159 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 9:21 pm
Oldgoat
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Oh, yeah I forgot about the rubber boots. The PO must have not gotten them back in after the re-spray. Do you have a pic of your handy work Charlie?
OG
OG
160 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 9:22 pm
charlie99
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only did it yesterday og ....hang on ill go take one now
three relays used ...duplication for headlight ....and new one for accessory lamps ,,,mounted under fairing about below the horn vent holes
i really should use a bit more cable management on this ....but now i have 2 x nice big juicy 3mm copper diameter cable feeding the relays ... fuse protection before it leaves the relaybox ... the accesory lamps come on only when the parkers are switched on ...with an operate switch on/off in the dash rubber section
three relays used ...duplication for headlight ....and new one for accessory lamps ,,,mounted under fairing about below the horn vent holes
i really should use a bit more cable management on this ....but now i have 2 x nice big juicy 3mm copper diameter cable feeding the relays ... fuse protection before it leaves the relaybox ... the accesory lamps come on only when the parkers are switched on ...with an operate switch on/off in the dash rubber section
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162 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 9:23 pm
Oldgoat
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Big difference in the airflow Bert?
163 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun May 15, 2011 10:07 pm
Oldgoat
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Wow, Charlie. NO pissing about with that solution. Looks great!
I feel like a slacker just buying a relay kit, lol!
OG
I feel like a slacker just buying a relay kit, lol!
OG
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164 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 3:28 am
Guest
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OG,
those 6mm threaded holes are used if the bike's got a 'C' fairing. It is where the fairing stays attach. The lower triple clamp is generic.
those 6mm threaded holes are used if the bike's got a 'C' fairing. It is where the fairing stays attach. The lower triple clamp is generic.
165 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 6:26 am
Crazy Frog
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I buy these sockets for Bosh relays at Addison electronic for only $1.50 and they make a big difference for cable management. One of the nice feature is that they clip together and you can make a 'strip' of sockets if you need more than one.charlie99 wrote:
i really should use a bit more cable management on this
Having a socket makes it easier when you need to replace the relay and prevents mixing up wires during the swap.
For all my extra wiring and relays, I don't use fuses but circuit breakers like this one:
By the way, I visit Addison electronic once a year, and the deals are so good that I always spend too much money there.
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166 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 6:28 am
Crazy Frog
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Oldgoat wrote:Big difference in the airflow Bert?
Yes it does. This is the reason why BMW discarded them on the later models.
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167 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 8:53 am
charlie99
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thats cool bert .....they were asking over $7.00 a piece for the cradle ... ill get round to the extra cable ties in the first few inches away from the relays .
just above (not clear to see ) the cables follow the upper suport arm , and is quite neat
the smaller cables (7x 0.20 orange, white, black etc ) are basically signal cables from the switch and old headlight flange /socket so if it ever goes west ...just undo the headlight connection and slap in the old one .....for emergencies you understand
just above (not clear to see ) the cables follow the upper suport arm , and is quite neat
the smaller cables (7x 0.20 orange, white, black etc ) are basically signal cables from the switch and old headlight flange /socket so if it ever goes west ...just undo the headlight connection and slap in the old one .....for emergencies you understand
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
168 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 12:02 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Great find on Addison Bert, and I really like the idea of using relays! Wow, just checked and I luv their pricing too!
OG
OG
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169 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 12:03 pm
Oldgoat
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Dumb question TWB: What's a "C" fairing?
Thanks,
OG
Thanks,
OG
170 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 4:41 pm
Crazy Frog
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This is a C fairing.
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171 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 4:52 pm
Oldgoat
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Ahh, thanks Bert!
OG
OG
173 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 4:54 pm
club_c
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Can't you have that intake cam polished?
174 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 4:56 pm
Oldgoat
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Yep, C at this point and after talking to some very experienced gentleman I am very likely going to go with that option after replacing shims. I don't expect it to last forever, but for right now I think its going to be fine.
OG
OG
175 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 5:25 pm
BIG D
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For all you know OG it may last for a good while helped with good quality oil.
BIG D
176 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 5:39 pm
Oldgoat
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Hey BIG D,
I've been using Amsoil and Microlon on all my high performance machines with very good results so we shall see, but I'm back on the used market hunting so that I will be ready when it comes time to swap it out.
OG
I've been using Amsoil and Microlon on all my high performance machines with very good results so we shall see, but I'm back on the used market hunting so that I will be ready when it comes time to swap it out.
OG
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177 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 6:55 pm
club_c
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Ya, prolly only last 100,000 miles or so before you have to replace that bandaid...Oldgoat wrote:Yep, C at this point and after talking to some very experienced gentleman I am very likely going to go with that option after replacing shims. I don't expect it to last forever, but for right now I think its going to be fine.
OG
Hows the situation with the seller of the 'intake' cam shaking out?
178 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 7:19 pm
Albyalbatross1
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OG You really have inspired some of us. I am not sure how many of ushave cleaned up, tidyup general appearence and installed lighting relays. Nocked myself a set of relays up on the weekend and soft fitted them to try. I GOT LIGHT!! Love Charlies work on the mounting. Gonna have me a look at that this weekend.
Thanks for inspiration..
Thanks for inspiration..
179 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 8:39 pm
Oldgoat
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Lol, fingers crossed C! Oh, and the guy has been great and definitely earned his top power seller rating with me.
OG
OG
181 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 9:20 pm
charlie99
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hey og ....sad to hear about the exhaust cam ....but if you would do me a favor ....when you get that shim out ...would you take a pic ?
i would really like to see that thing .
cheers
i would really like to see that thing .
cheers
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
182 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 9:23 pm
Oldgoat
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Sure thing Charlie...you and me both!
OG
OG
183 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 9:30 pm
184 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 9:34 pm
Crazy Frog
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Oh crap! we didn't expect you reading our posts .
When you want to do a good job, you need a good set of tools!
I am even doing carpentry with my digital caliper.... No I am not measuring wood chips.
When you want to do a good job, you need a good set of tools!
I am even doing carpentry with my digital caliper.... No I am not measuring wood chips.
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185 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon May 16, 2011 10:04 pm
charlie99
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Crazy Frog wrote:Oh crap! we didn't expect you reading our posts .
When you want to do a good job, you need a good set of tools!
I am even doing carpentry with my digital caliper.... No I am not measuring wood chips.
lol bert ...
yay ....good work og every house needs one of those and it looks like you picked a usefull size ........i had to travel 1200 kilometers to measure my shims .....giggles ...
my brother was a mechanic for a while and had an awesome tools catalogue ...
but just recently a friend that lives nearby .....(down on his luck) brought over a micrometer set .... i nearly fell off the chair ....he only was asking for $20.00 so now it lives with me ... i have lots of shims to measure ....
186 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 3:39 am
BIG D
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Nice peice of kit OG, as charlie says will be interesting to look at the shim.
BIG D
187 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 6:25 am
Crazy Frog
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Here in Canada, we have Princess Auto where we can buy very cheap tools. Tools are sold under the Power Fist brand name. You may not expect to get much use from a cheap made in China product, but this company offers a life time warranty on them.
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188 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 7:20 am
charlie99
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wow ..... they do have some stuff there bert ....amazing ...and the prices ...are fantastic .....i did say im a scrooge didnt i ?
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
189 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 12:27 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Yep, you guys are definitely going to be a bad influence! Luv those prices Bert AND a real warranty.
191 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 12:36 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Good news on the cam front. The seller does have the intake on hand and just mixed them up. So looks like I'll have my spare after all.
OG
OG
192 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 pm
BIG D
Life time member
All's well that end's well then OG, I could go mad spending in that place bert nice prices.
BIG D
193 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 2:50 pm
charlie99
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thats great news og ....woohoo....
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
194 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 4:14 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Hey Guys,
Does anyone know the 6 digit tool number for the valve adjustment tools?
Thanks,
OG
Does anyone know the 6 digit tool number for the valve adjustment tools?
Thanks,
OG
196 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 7:35 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Thanks TWB. Gonna go after my homemade setup with the grinder tonight and see if I can get a good fit.
OG
OG
197 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 7:59 pm
Guest
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OG, one of the BMW part numbers is 95 00 0 111 720 and the BMW tool set number is 11 1 720 - that's for the set, the individual tools are different. BMW made a part number change on a lot of their tools a coupla years back, so it could be something else now. But didn't CF post up a diagram of the tools so a bloke with a grinder and some initiative could have one homemade?
198 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 8:40 pm
Oldgoat
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Thanks again mate! That explains why its been difficult tracking down correct p/n's here state side. After digging around today I'm going to just make what I have work with the ol grinder.
OG
OG
199 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue May 17, 2011 9:13 pm
Crazy Frog
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I don't remember the post, but I found the schematic:
Here it is. All the dimensions are in metric (The periods in the English system are commas in the French system).
Here it is. All the dimensions are in metric (The periods in the English system are commas in the French system).
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201 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Thu May 19, 2011 8:04 am
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