85 RS restoration (part #2)

Oldgoat · 1 85 RS restoration (part #2) Wed Apr 18 2012, 19:21

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The original topic has reached almost 1,000 posts and it had to be split. This is part #2.
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Yeah, Halo I've been drooling over that bit for some time know.

My big 3 shop list would read:

1) New much larger ultrasonic cleaner, (possibly DIY if I can get a clue)
2) Powder coating kit and a large used kitchen oven for the cooking
3) A proper lift table w/ pass thru

Oldgoat · 2 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Wed Apr 18 2012, 19:30

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It's not a bad little kit at all Mike. Sizes are 9-13mm, 12-19mm, 18-27mm, 24-29mm.

Halo · 3 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Wed Apr 18 2012, 23:02

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OG you are certainly lucky over there I tried to but I couldn't register as not in the states Sad

sidecar paul · 4 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu Apr 19 2012, 17:15

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Nice bit of kit, OG.......quite jealous Crying or Very sad

Paul

Oldgoat · 5 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu Apr 19 2012, 18:15

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Wow, Halo I'm surprised to hear that and not brilliant on their part in today's global economy. Let me know if there is anything you want me to pass along for you? Thanks Paul. At the sale price it was actually less than what the machine shop wanted to pull the bearings.

OG

Halo · 6 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 00:23

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OG Eastwoods is much better was able to order a gallon of the fast etch really easy they even accept Paypal, can't wait to get Very Happy

Inge K. · 7 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 01:58

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sidecar paul wrote:Nice bit of kit, OG.......quite jealous

Paul

Here you can get a close to similar one in UK.........to a quite different price.

BTW. Got the set AK 716....seems to be reasonable quality....nothing deformed, broken or thrown out through the window so far.

Inge K.

charlie99 · 8 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 02:43

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wow halo ...is that shipable to aussie ....lets hope it comes with an "msds" so that it makes it through customs huh ?

hope it gets here !!! would love to see it in action .

Halo · 9 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 02:54

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Yes Charlie as usual you are right on the money there this was my thought as well. The speel on the site states that it leaves a protective coating as well to inhibit rust, just gets better.

charlie99 · 10 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 03:23

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crikey !! sounds more and more like a couple of "rust converter " products sold over here ....

charlie99 · 11 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 03:27

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Oldgoat wrote:Yeah, mate it was a little disappointing, but I suppose if I wanted something cheap I should have purchased a 250 Ninja!

OG

funny you should say that ...a mate at work has a gifted one he wants me to look at ...hmmm ,,giggles

its got oil flowing out of places ivenever seen before ..and all over the exhaust pipes ...they tell me a cloud of smoke is ever present ....shudder !!

Oldgoat · 12 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 10:39

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Sweet Halo! Chaz they really are great little machines and I'm betting you'll have her sorted in short order. They also have an excellent board:

http://forums.ninja250.org/

OG

charlie99 · 13 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri Apr 20 2012, 15:28

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cheers mate ...added a new favorites link with it in there

sidecar paul · 14 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Sun Apr 22 2012, 14:01

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Thanks Inge,
As you say 'a different price', but I'll keep a note of that site for when I'm desperate,
Cheers,
Paul.

Oldgoat · 15 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 19:04

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Really like the paint scheme on this beauty! Cool

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One of the SEXIEST twins I've seen...done by Ritmo Sereno so you know everything is simply world class!

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charlie99 · 16 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 21:29

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oooo ! ...white and shiney too

Oldgoat · 17 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 22:02

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In know mate...I'm normally a red/black kind of guy with all my favorite toys, but I think the old Bismarck would look really good in this kind of scheme. I also really like that pearlescent powder on the frame and wheels!!

OG

charlie99 · 18 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 23:06

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have in the back of my mind a white frame and wheels .....erm one day after all the stuff is back on and proven.

i think i have seen some gs types with that scheme also og ...r100 or something

Oldgoat · 19 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 23:16

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Yep, mate I've seen a couple of those too and they look verrry nice as well! As you say after all the mechanical stuff has been rebuilt/restored... I just start thinking of jumping ahead when a see great examples like this.

OG

Oldgoat · 20 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 23:56

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Just rebuilding the peg brackets with new bits while I'm waiting on all my overseas parts for the back end.

OG

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charlie99 · 21 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Mon Apr 23 2012, 23:58

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looking nice mate 85 RS restoration (part #2) 112350

Oldgoat · 22 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 00:01

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Just a real quick and dirty mate as time has really been in short supply for garage work and I have several trips planned for this summer so it's gotta get done.

Oldgoat · 23 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 00:05

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Talked with some Honda V65 Sabre guys this past weekend who are running the Avon radials on their bikes and just luving them! They are using the same size we use for our +1 tire upgrade and I'm thinking very seriously about doing this as there simply isn't going to be money in the budget to send the rear to Kosman this summer...

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charlie99 · 24 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 00:13

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the pirelli sport demon on the back is a solid performer og ....i could notice the difference straight away

that was 140 x 80 x 17 from memory

Oldgoat · 25 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 00:18

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Yeah, mate they were using the Avon radials in our sizes on the old Hondas. 110/80/18 & 140/80/17. Ultra storm 2 in the front and Azaro St in the back. The Azaro is made off the old ultra storm mold and Avon said it was fine running the two different models. So we can actually run radials on our stock rim sizes. Very Happy

Really made a BIG difference on the Honda Sabers.

OG

http://www.bikebandit.com/avon-av55-st-storm-2-ultra-sport-touring-radial-motorcycle-tire

http://www.bikebandit.com/avon-av46-motorcycle-tire

JR_K100RS · 26 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 00:40

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G'day OG ,
that's exactly the combo that I'm running ( Avon's ) in short listen to Charlie , 2 thumbs down from me , can't wait to get em off & go the big wheel mod ( hey Charlie whats holding you up ? ) . I could say more but I won't .

JR

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charlie99 · 27 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue Apr 24 2012, 01:54

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the tyre is on the wheel .....sometime soon jr

Oldgoat · 28 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Wed Apr 25 2012, 10:48

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Looking forward to seeing your setup mate...

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Oldgoat wrote:Yes, I want one of those little red buttons on all my bikes! Thanks so much for posting that classic vid CF! Great stuff and nothing beats the smell of two stroke in the morning for me to this day!

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just paint yer starter button red/accept fresh ground coffe:lol:

Oldgoat · 30 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:08

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The elusive FAG swingarm bearings are finally here and I'm going to carve out a little time if I can to finish the rebuild on the swing arm and finally get the rebuilt Showa installed in the front...

OG

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charlie99 · 31 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:10

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yipee !!!

costy og ?

im hoping they werent bmw stock

Oldgoat · 32 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:13

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Got them from Motobins mate, Ill have to check the price again, with a few other items. Cheaper than here in the US, but by no means inexpensive. Could not find a bearing supply in town or online that could provide the odd sizing that BMW specs for these and didn't want to go down the road of making spacers and using another size as others have done. Hopefully, it will be the last time I have to replace them...

OG

charlie99 · 33 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:18

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ah ! thanks mate ..

youve done well ...cheers !

Oldgoat · 34 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:23

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I don't know about that mate...just not any other options and will shall see if all this money thrown at the suspension really pays dividends where it counts?

OG

Rick G · 35 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:36

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I got this direct from the motobrick site and haven't followed the link so the usual disclaimer applies
It
seems NTN or SNR (or other) 32203 bearings will be a direct replacement for the
swingarm bearings on our bricks. 17x17.25x40. The width on these is measured
differently on different sites, but it is an exact match for what we need.
These bearings seem to be hard to find, but I managed to find some SNR brand
bearings from www.motionindustries.com.
They are apparently a super heavy duty series that usually doesn't start that
small.
The guy that posted it is usually reliable

Oldgoat · 36 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:41

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Nice find Rick! Hopefully this place still does indeed have a size that will work for the old girls?

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Oldgoat · 37 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:44

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FYI for anyone who has to do the bearings in the swing arm. The little tin caps do not come with the new bearings and are NLA so don't destroy them when removing the old bearings if you can help it...

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88 · 38 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:48

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Good to know OG. Thanks.
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Oldgoat · 39 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 19:56

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Ended up using the Extreme fluro grease on the clutch arm bearings and with the new mud flap I decided not to add an external grease fitting so we shall see how it goes. Paul did the "ultimate" upgrade on this bit for those who don't ever want to worry about it again.

http://k100rt.aforumfree.com/t3182-stubborn-clutch-arm-bearings?highlight=clutch+arm+bearings

OG

Finally time for everything to go back together again!

Oldgoat · 40 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 20:05

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No worries 88. Just wanted to let folks know as the machine shop simply destroyed one of mine and I was non to happy about it when I picked up the swing arm!!

OG

Oldgoat · 41 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 20:47

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Ending up cutting out a small piece of Dyno-mat to replace the one destroyed cap, and just like the FD I heated up the end of the swing arm to about 60 C and used the old bearing cage as a drift and she popped in straight away.

OG

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charlie99 · 42 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 21:40

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nice work og .....crickey she shouldnt be far off a road ride ?

Oldgoat · 43 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 10 2012, 22:00

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Yep, in theory mate you're right. Reality lately has me working silly hours and this is the first time I've been out in the garage in I don't know how long so I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed and try to carve out a bit more time if I'm able...

OG

sidecar paul · 44 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Fri May 11 2012, 05:10

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Phew OG,
I don't envy you guys who haven't retired yet. I wouldn't find the time to go to work these days.
Anyway, the work you are doing is top quality with everything sooooo clean. I wish........but then again, when they are used they get grubby.
Keep it up,
Cheers,
Paul.

Ghost who rides · 45 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Sat May 12 2012, 03:15

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Superb work as usual OG, it's a real pleasure/inspirational/learning experience from all you 'full on' restorers. Please keep the reports coming, Gordon

Oldgoat · 46 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Sun May 13 2012, 00:29

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Thanks guys.

Oldgoat · 47 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Sun May 13 2012, 00:38

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OK folks I fired up the shop lights late this evening and took some expresso! Time to get her done for now!! Finished the rear and was surprised how easy the bearing swap was with a little assist from the butane torch. Also, got my calipers reloaded, rebuilt the master yet again and fingers crossed. So just a little wiring, a couple more seals, and swap in the 94 front fork and she should be road worthy again.

charlie99 · 48 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Sun May 13 2012, 07:00

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og mate ....just better and better ....amazing !!!

Halo · 49 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Tue May 15 2012, 21:07

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Well done OG looks really good, I like that rear shock really looks the part as well. In Phuket at present on holiday, holiday is good but looking at your thread makes me want to be at home working on my bike!.

Halo

Oldgoat · 50 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #2) Thu May 17 2012, 13:45

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Thanks guys and enjoy your vacation mate! Very Happy

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