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301Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:33 am

charlie99


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lol thanks guys

and yes Blakey I have seen those posts about green frames ...in fb ...bevel heaven  and so many pages

cheers

the soda blasting has created a whole new challenge to get it back to shiney stuff ….giggles

    

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Charlie - if you can find someone who does vapour-blasting, that would solve the problem. I've had three engines vapour-blasted from scratch i.e. just the grease and shite removed from bare alloy (no good if they're painted).

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The good thing about the finish, particularly on a sump, is that vapour-blasting actually closes up the pits and pores preventing corrosion from getting easily restarted and stopping crap from sticking so easily.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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303Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:14 am

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great result Dai

don't know the resources in this country town yet , but will keep looking


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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One you get it all perfectly cleaned and assembled you should entomb it in a large clear acrylic block so that it can't even get dusty. Very Happy


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86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
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305Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:57 am

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spent a good few hours on those parts today


what do you think ?

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given the option for soda blasting , and finned bits , I would have to say ,  maybe not again ???


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Looks pretty good Charlie!


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1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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You're going to have to start wearing sunglasses when working on that motor.


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
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just on the off chance

I have to change the serial number on the sump , so that my serial number here in aussie is registered 

does any one have the right stamps for this , loan or buy …..  just need  the number "7" and the number "0"


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Some good advice Charlie, don't change the serial number it can lead to disastrous consequences if it is picked up.


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engine covers update , made satin some 2 years  ago , took out some sandcast marks and a bit brighter now , there are still some legacy deep marks in the crank cover (typical stuff with fairings and rubber mating against the aluminium , drop events etc )
still some polishing to do , ...after its assembled , will do

should fit in well with the updated sump eh ?

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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shims for valves arrived today ..woohoo ...so decided to do a bit more work

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cut off old and hardened rubber from the cover bolts and installed new

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reassembled the timing gear and rolled it over a couple of times ...all ok and valve clearances are good to go

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so then replaced the timing cover and cam cover ….with a sneak peak at the theme i'm hoping to achieve

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yeah ok …..for all you northern hemisphere types (who cant read upside down )   right side up, by photo manipulation

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what do you think ...looking the goods ….yes ?

next the output shaft sump etc


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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sump and output shaft back together

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couple of screws to do up on the water pump , but heres the idea any how


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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I truly appreciate your efforts towards cleanliness being next to godliness, Chaz. I, on the other hand, leave perhaps too much of yesterday's devilish grease and oil while I impatiently see how it all fits together.


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brought old Gerty to her new home today  by visiting brisvegas again

thanks to Matt , the old girl started straight up , after removing a battery tender attached by Matt

thanks heaps Mate !!!

Gertys new home ...plush to say the least …"oh the serenity "

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also acquired some bolts for gearbox to bell housing (enough for 2x applications ) from my favorite bolt shop

I showed the attendant pics of their stock supplied by them and installed to the motor that I have been working on ,  and she instantly recognised the  k100 head , which she also has , installed to a mini project she is working on ...great affinity indeed .. she was impressed  to say the least .

also some new head - steering bearings arrived , ( jap brand at least ) so the project moves along

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Charlie, out of curiosity, did you replace those awful Torx bolts with capheads when you bolted the bellhousing back on? What the hell were BMW thinking of when they did that?


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

316Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:37 am

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hiya Dai .. yes cap head bolts into the bell housing will be allen heads


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today spent a few hours  with smithy , repairing a frame bridge crack , now rewelded with some steel support

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and replaced the steering head bearings , the lower yolk bearing being particularly hard to remove .


now with new jap bearings fitted , this bit ready to go

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a bit of fiddling about repairing paint defects and injuries (from rough handling , bumps etc )  will happen this week , followed by a good layer or two clear coat , should have the frame ready for taking parts next week

will give me time to refinish the bell housing and fit it back up with a later version of the sprage clutch

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Reckon that silver against red is gunna have a classical look to it, Chazza. I don't know your ultimate direction, but if using an RS fairing, what colour have you chosen for the panels?


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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

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just a reminder , something like this mate

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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bit of bump and tickle to the bell housing late this afternoon

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still upside down ...alas …  brush finish only ...so far

too much ? or should I polish it also ????

thoughts please ?


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Polishing eh?

I had a fat-tank 860 Ducati and made the fatal mistake (young and stupid) of poishing the cases so they just about glowed in the dark.

Boy, did I make a rod for my back!

I had to keep them polished as they just looked crappy otherwise!

Good luck with whatever you decide.


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I dunno much about finishes, never been my forte, but after all this elbowing, would a shot of clear keep it lookin like lickin?



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yeah your right guys

the sump oil pump etc is clear coated . likely the top of the motor also
side panels , cam cover, timing cover and crank cover will be Cornubia waxed as they are easy to get to  and suffer from exposure issues ,so easy to keep  wiping it over

effort this morning has the bell housing  taken from brush - scotch bright finish ,  to polished , not a great deal of appearance difference to the camera , but smooth as a babys bum

clear coat to go on later

thanks for the replys ….appreciate the opinion

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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It's amazing the different paths people take. I applaud your genuine effort as the real deal. This K11 I bought a coupla years, the basket case, well the bloke spray painted everything black. He musta used a spray gun coz it's a thick, durable layer. Trub is the wanker sprayed over the rubber boot on the Paralever, hose clamps, even wheel weights. 

Spray Job Special.


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"How many cars did we pass today?" "ALL of them."
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

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Only trouble Charlie is once it's finished you wont want to ride it, because it's soooo pretty.
Regards Martin.


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dang , I feel your pain


we do have a pretty good paint stripper out here , poly stripper , which is miles better than many other brands at removing tough paint

if using some other product be aware that if unsuccessful first application  there is no way back , it hardens the paint a great deal and nothing less than sanding etc will remove it , just a heads up

eager to see what becomes of the old basket case …  a great deal younger than my attempt


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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MartinW wrote:Only trouble Charlie is once it's finished you wont want to ride it, because it's soooo pretty.
Regards Martin.

I don't think ill have any trouble with that martin ...giggles , after all it could turn into a very shiney "Rat Bike " 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 44271


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Charlie NOOOOOOOOOOO ARHHHHHH. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 167893


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bell housing fitted up , and clutch basket inserted to check if the newer type seal is making the right contact

ill tighten this baby up tomorrow and move onto refurbishing a gearbox bearings and seals (and other stuff)

got to make a stand for the engine , and transmission line in the coming days also

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Hallo Mcharlie99 wrote: … boxing day cleanup of gasket area and pistons ,diready for the head I cleaned up back in july , 86 model with the different seats below

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should be all buttoned up a little later today sometime

Hello #charlie99 !
Well done and nice, is your kitchen as clean , haha.

A German fried would very much like to know how you have cleaned this part.
He rebuilds a lot K bike but doesn’t get it as clean.
Would be great if you could explain !!!


Cheers :-)

charlie99


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hmm , not hard to do chocolate

first off valves were removed to start with

ports were cleaned up with a Dremel tool  reshaping the short curve radius as to reduce any sharp corners with a sanding barrel type thing

valves were cleaned up on the face and rear using a wire brush on a drill

hemispheres of the combustion chamber were cleaned up with wet and dry paper , finished with the Dremel type tool and wire brush

head surface was refinished with a standard stone used for sharpening knives etc ….when brand new they are particularly flat and make for a good grinding stone , all by hand

careful not to make any big differences in the surface , uniformity is paramount

valves were them lapped to the seats with grinding paste ,  

it took quite a while to get it to look like that



hope that helps


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Your description of the process gives the impression it's all in a relaxed Sunday arvo, when in fact it's a heap of time - and patience - required to achieve those results. Well done, Mr Semi-Retired. I'll wager the stack of tinnies in the corner can tell the tale.
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charlie99 wrote:hmm , not hard to do chocolate …

Thanks Charlie, that helps.

Cheers


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first coat of clear coat on the frame , late in the afternoon , nearly night time

and some other bits getting the Charlie treatment

thanks to smithy for the extra parts  (oops overlooked a couple of bits needed ) 

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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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flipped the motor right way up and started on induction system
 
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rubbers matched to the ports

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some grubby - modified tbs

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and thinking about the top rubbers clamps ….hmm .. the Suzuki thin types with screws perhaps ???


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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threw some bits on the frame , just to see what it looks like , and really to start assembling the wiring loom , with the mods that I will be using

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mostly will be unseen  once fairings , panels , tank etc are installed


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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It's bringing back memories of my first new bike a Ducati. Bought from Pratts in Melbourne delivered by a BMW with a flat cargo chair. Could of been an omen of my future.

Regards Martin.

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Hi Charlie, if your rubbers are in good condition and supple. I have found that tie wraps will do the job, of course on a faired bike you will want to be extra careful checking for leaks before covering them up

    

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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5mm tiewraps... now that is a good idea if the rubber hasn't gone hard. If you can get them on from the inside that will definately improve the look of the bike in that area.


























- just as long as they're not white ones. Twisted Evil


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um translation please

tie wraps ?  would we know them as zip ties


or a pic would be good


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Yes Charlie. Correctly translated.


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robmack wrote:Yes Charlie.  Correctly translated.

thanks mate

interesting how we have different terminology at times …..  but just by asking ….resolved !!

given the heat and uv and obvious unknown age of cable ties - zip ties before installation ...ill be looking for something of a longer lasting solution , but a good thought at least ,,,thanks for the suggestions

cheers


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Charlie Bunnings have packets of stainless cables ties.
Regards Martin.


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hmm nice option martin

ill think on that one for sure


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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MartinW wrote:Charlie Bunnings have packets of stainless cables ties.
Regards Martin.
But are they white or black? 😉

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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Colour can be changed with the aid of marker or paint pens. So pink is a distinct possibility if you want. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 652573
Regards Martin.


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One of the problems with zip ties in stainless is the width of the tie. It's generally too wide for the ridge provided on the bushing and won't sit quite properly. The Suzuki band clamps are the correct diameter and width and fit much better. You'd have to check the ties you have available to you to see whether they fit.


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MartinW wrote:Colour can be changed with the aid of marker or paint pens. So pink is a distinct possibility if you want. 83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 7 652573
Regards Martin.
Pink it is. Looking forward to seeing that, Charlie.  Embarassed

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress

1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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MartinW

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Rob I haven't checked them out lately but I believe they can be had in a couple of widths. I was going to substitute the OEM ties for stainless. After a bit of cogitation I concluded that they would be a pain to remove on the side of the road if needed.
Regards Martin.


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more top end works

oops … bloomin old and hardened rubber , too easy to do

 but found another

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getting there


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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panel damage ...such a pain !!! ...happened whilst moving in plastic storage containers …. not enough packing and too many things in the same box  … the lower panels came off worse ...but blemishes and scratches abound .


oh well... time for a fresh coat of paint and finally  clear coat in a few days

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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