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501Back to top Go down   83-84 engine cleanup  - Page 11 Empty Re: 83-84 engine cleanup Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:29 am

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chris846 wrote:This is timely, I've got half an idea that the followers/buckets come in different diameters - to best match the heads. Is this right or is it something I've dreamt?

Reassuring that you've referred to the 'usual leaks' - I thought it was just me, all mine have leaked there too at some point.

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chris I imagine cam buckets - lifters ..all follow their own wear rules , kinda like cv joints and the like , so not surprised to see some differences to me at least

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solved ... intermittent fluffing - hesitation  whilst idling
on investigation found one of the coils arcing over ....couldn't find it till removal of the coil cover ...

new - second hand "good coil " installed  and idles - runs sweetly ....win !

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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an interesting and specialised modification arrrived today ...care of that inventive guru ...Side Car Paul ....wow looks fantastic ....gee ive only just got these switches together recently ....well ...i have to pull it down to add this ..for sure
 will match the redframe concept to a tee ....

thanks so much Paul ....

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Wow that sure makes it an individual.


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Charlie, you will have to post a photo of the new bike and then have arrows showing the source of each part. This is truly an international bike.


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1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
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You're welcome Charlie, it will remove that tiny bit of green on the red, white and silver project!


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now installed , looks Grand ...thanks again Paul , fits right in with the details eh ?

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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think ive got the rear master sorted , with finally an additional reservoir installed , all just about done , (yet to push the rubber further on the fill spigot )

some pics

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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that old Koni shock is just about done , looks ok after the restore process , well with a Charlie touch at least ...lol

reminder of before


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should look good on the redframe project , perhaps a pic fitted , later today ?   

not bad for $280.00 all up eh ? 

a bloke has to do it the hard way some times


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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bugga it , couldn't wait to see the difference it made to the rear end , as far as themed colour scheme , so fitted it up straight away

kinda fits in well I recon . rather than that black original shock


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and yes the rear disk is not the finished item ....the matching to front floating disk for the rear has a warp in the hub - disk mount  so needs to be machined ....will go on at a later stage ....but I do have rear brakes  ...yipee   !!! likewise the rear wheel rim  , will be sorting an adaptor to straighten another rim ...pretty soon


edit , just noticed I got the top yolk 180 degrees out , cant access the damping adjustment , oh well , switch it round later today ,


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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talk about a day of mistakes

reread the installation brochure
 
and mounted it right way up this time


sorted

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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When everything fails....read the instructions.....know that well. Nearly ready for historic rego?
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I belong to the local historic club. Still don't know how it passed rego with the rifle there.


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1983 K100 basic vin 0003960 colour red  GONE
1987 K100RT vin 0094685 colour, orange peel, sorry, pearl..GONE
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nearly Stan

hmm could that gun be  a replica of sorts ?


just a few things to sort properly  , like leaking brake master at the front , etc
the local restorers club , over at Inverell , do a "rego day" on the 30th of November ...more a get together and reregister  or newly register a complying vehicle .
but you need to have every thing in order to present to the officer for testing ,  Phil Kimber ( "rockman"  on here ) has been watching the progress I guess and is one of the registrars for the club , im hoping all goes well .
but I still need to get  rego papers from a previous owner to prove that at one time it was in fact registered and also to register the bike with the RMS  (roads authority  , formerly dmr  (as I knew it , some time ago ) for the historic plates , and a "pink slip " (safety certificate ) along with some other stuff  ?

ill have to send off to al pennykid ,who says he may still have some documents regarding the frame at least


seems like a big task , given that so many bits and pieces have come from all over and the frame has changed from an RT to an RS ...in our eyes no biggie  but hmmm  not sure about that  bit

perhaps things will fall into place  this month


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Stan wrote:When everything fails....read the instructions.....know that well. Nearly ready for historic rego?
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I belong to the local historic club. Still don't know how it passed rego with the rifle there.

Its a wooden replica for show. Just the butt really

    

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charlie99 wrote:nearly Stan

hmm could that gun be  a replica of sorts ?


just a few things to sort properly  , like leaking brake master at the front , etc
the local restorers club , over at Inverell , do a "rego day" on the 30th of November ...more a get together and reregister  or newly register a complying vehicle .
but you need to have every thing in order to present to the officer for testing ,  Phil Kimber ( "rockman"  on here ) has been watching the progress I guess and is one of the registrars for the club , im hoping all goes well .
but I still need to get  rego papers from a previous owner to prove that at one time it was in fact registered and also to register the bike with the RMS  (roads authority  , formerly dmr  (as I knew it , some time ago ) for the historic plates , and a "pink slip " (safety certificate ) along with some other stuff  ?

ill have to send off to al pennykid ,who says he may still have some documents regarding the frame at least


seems like a big task , given that so many bits and pieces have come from all over and the frame has changed from an RT to an RS ...in our eyes no biggie  but hmmm  not sure about that  bit

perhaps things will fall into place  this month
You dont need a pink slip Charlie. The club inspector can do that for you. Nor do you ned the old rego papers. A receipt from the previous owner (of the frame) is sufficient. Alternatively you can do a stat dec at the RMS.

    

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cheers Phil
thanks for clarifying some ...here say rules that get thrown at me ...time to time


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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A great project and well done too.

On the rear shock I have one of those Konis on my K100LT and it was great for 2 up with camping gear on twisties. It is still good but needs a refurb and repaint the spring. Did you do any more to it??


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

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refurbished seals , rod re chromed and other stuff internally , plus gimble fittings replaced at each eye with same as the stock bmw ones , as the ball type seems to be hard to get a hold of ...at this point in time , Schrader valve installed as well , on the recharge point .


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Charlie, you're lucky those side covers conceal the black cable ties around the top rail of the frame otherwise you would have to source red ones - and how about getting some grey/silver cable ties for those lines running down to the rear master cylinder?

On the RT to RS question - I don't think it will bother NSW RMS too much. When I went to register my K75 which was imported and a factory naked bike designated just "K75" they told me that it was either a "K75S" or a "K75RT", which is it? so it's an RT. Apparently because the "K75" naked was not sold out here they don't recognise that model.

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Gaz wrote:Charlie, you're lucky those side covers conceal the black cable ties around the top rail of the frame otherwise you would have to source red ones - and how about getting some grey/silver cable ties for those lines running down to the rear master cylinder?

On the RT to RS question - I don't think it will bother NSW RMS too much. When I went to register my K75 which was imported and a factory naked bike designated just "K75" they told me that it was either a "K75S" or a "K75RT", which is it? so it's an RT. Apparently because the "K75" naked was not sold out here they don't recognise that model.

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It'll be as a K100RT, because that is what the frame and vin says. The different tupperware doesnt matter that much, except to some clubs for whom originality is paramount.

    

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cheers guys ...thanks for the input ....it all helps this weird and frazzled old mind that gets to do some enjoying periodically


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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My experience with one motorcycle registration with RMS was similar to Rockman's. The description of the model recorded by the RMS official doing the registration data entry was different to the manufacturers model description - close but different. It appears that if the drop down menu does not have the correct descriptor, the common response of the person doing the registration data entry is to select something that approximates. There appears to be no capacity for the person doing data entry to do an on the spot modification to correctly describe the model.  Some insurance companies also have incomplete descriptors for models and select the closest model descriptor just to complete the transaction. They just don't have our passion!

    

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cheers Murray

exactly what I experienced when registering Gerty  in nsw just recently

both with rms and green slip insurer


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Same in Queensland if the frame or VIN says it's an RS then it's an RS there is no way but to choose from a manufacturers list.


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fitting up the lower fairings , well trial fittup ,
looks like ill have to undo a few things and relocate the fairing spider around just a smidgen , and the lower brackets are a little wide
, ill take an inch off them and see i guess ......

question can someone measure the airbox to outer lower fairing and tell me the measurement ...as i have not seen the brackets for this area before and i would like to get it close to original ....before i do any cutting

think I got it sorted , thanks to Aaron   who  took measurements , about 105mm to outer edge , should then let the knee pads fit neatly to the engine bits and I guess the tank interface - buffer



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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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a better fit now , with thanks for the measuring help

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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got some new to me muffler clamps
far better than the ones I got from blighty as second hand units (pretty corroded they were )

as they arrived ,

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should look great , although hidden from view to some extent , at least ill know they are good to go and will outlast me

thanks Paul


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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You don't really need those Charlie - I find they're more of a PITA than useful and a huge PITA to get them correctly orientated. If the exhausts are a reasonably tight fit in the silencer they soon seal up with carbon. BTDT; used to do it on my Guzzis too. Or not do it, depending on your POV.


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yes they are a curious item to get correctly orientated ....giggles

but the old ones on there are really thin and I fear will collapse ....in time


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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finally fitted up the right hand "Side Pocket" mod

looks ok to me and a good firm fit
just a little finishing to the aluminium to complete and to find some really flexible silicon sheet to cover the hinges


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Mind you, I blame Charlie for giving me the push to do this after I'd thought about it for so long. As we're a somewhat wetter clime than Charlie's bit of the bush, I had to make it water resistant (I'd love to say 'watertight' but Murphy and all that...). I made the box from 2mm aluminium but you're not seeing it because I made a complete bollox of the welds in places. It's lined with 3mm closed cell sticky-back neoprene - yeah, yeah, so I bolloxed it up in places too Laughing . No rattly tollbooth change in there. There's a divider bolted about about 2/3rds of the way down the box to prevent coins from disappearing out of sight. The lid is made from high-nickel content (i.e. slow rust) 1mm thick mild steel covered with satin-black sticky-back plastic. Contrary to what your eyes are telling you, the four stainless allen bolts holding the box on are countersunk flush into the rubber.

The lock is a 16mm camlock from a filing cabinet and the hinge is stainless steel. The neoprene on the bottom is punched out at the rear to provide a couple of drain holes and the box is drilled in the same place. I then punched the holes with a punch (!!) to turn them into shallow spouts. I added a second layer of neoprene to the lid so that it was well compressed when locked.

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No, I am not doing a British Standard hosepipe test. I'll wait for the Irish one.

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not 3 bad Dai

as you say, good for small stuff

good on you for getting the gumption to get in there and have a go


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'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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solved a number of issues in the last few days
front brake master leaking , and removing paint as it did so ...bugga !
rear disk rubbing badly on rotation
engine cam cover leaks
centre stand return springs wrong angle at one end ...(wtf )

a package arrived from blighty (motorworks in this case ) with resolution bits like, service kit (piston for master cylinder and seals )
new engine cover seals , and old second hand centre stand springs

whilst waiting for the stuff to arrive I made a rubber seal to mate to the piston pushrod and circumference of the master cylinder housing  which pushes home into the brake side perch with the aid of a couple of bolts

I figured that the piston seals would - could let some fluid pass as the bore and rubbers aged ... I got some hole punches and thumped out some rubber into the right size for the job , of course tested the theory on old Gerty first , (which does leak like a sieve , but not too bad ) and it worked ....well for now at least .
so applied the same to the recovered and reworked master cylinder which I had , replacing the old piston with the newly arrived replacement . bloomin brilliant ....

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found another old rear disk (with cast iron brake disk (retired))  with what appeared to me to be a good carrier which ran as true as you could want , as the one from Floyd  was bent fairly badly , the floating steel disk just followed the bad carrier ... 
a Charlie ...quick strip clean up and repaint , had the carrier ready to mount the floating disk the next afternoon ,  upon mounting, it ran excellently as in neutral , engine running , the rear wheel rotated freely

the recovered engine case gaskets were leaking badly in all the usual places , like the low point of the cam cover especially .  measured the old and hardened rubber seal at about 2.38mm in thickness along the seal area .  the new seals arrived measuring about 3.00 mm and supple as you would want , fitted up yesterday and let cure as I had applied gasket sealant to the retaining grove around the cover .  so far with a bit of running happening  no leaks ...yippee !!!

and of course Charlie treatment to centre stand springs had them installed  also the next day ,, with definitely a good centre stand return action now

now to bed in the brakes over time  in preparation for club registration ....not too far off now ...at the end of this month


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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You will be tearing around legally very soon. It really gets to me that the tiny little things crop up when you think that all is going so well. I also had that spring problem on my basic. The spring looked ok and I didn't know that there was a right and wrong way of putting it on, after all the function is pretty simple.


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oh ,I don't know what the spring came off stan but the hook part was 90 degrees different to the other end
being the right length and diameter , its a mystery to me

top one is the fake unit , bottom one is a s/h unit from motorworks , repainted etc


 
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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K75cster

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As long as they fit mate, it's all good from then on


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made a version 2 for the sidemarker lamps in the indicator pods

these  (top set) newer - different  cob lamps should have a wider view angle  as version 1 was quite too narrow for the diffraction of light in the lenses to be really effective


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looks ok I guess

lens surround seals now installed as some oring seal material arrived Friday


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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That looks the goods Charlie, very neat.
Hope you northern boys are keeping safe, we are thinking of you
RT n ST


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thanks Bob , yeah its been more than a month with smoke around the area , and some scary tales of close fires  even Smithy was visited with warnings

tons of fire trucks are camped up here with daily shifts of trucks heading off to the fires around the district , down my street


and level 4 water restrictions  ...down the road a little and all around are level 5  emergency water issues


cheers mate , best wishes to sharron as well


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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bit more work last couple of days

decided to hack the front master cylinder reservoir , its just so big and fuggly on the build, hitting the faring etc

to route in a lip around the top , now I know it clears the fairing at that height , find some screws etc

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a bit of bling to the rear fender , to cover up the old registration labels etc,  which left impressions into the plastic fender

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reworked the pretension tubes on the progressive springs in the front forks , took 40 mm out , leaving 40 mm ....ill have to add about 10mm extra  to raise the ride height , just a touch , and so the under fairing lamps clear the front fender when under full compression and turning tightly .
but the feel and ride is far better than before the cut in length ...was just too hard and bouncy at normal speeds  . also replaced fork oil for 5 weight .

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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charlie99 wrote:the under fairing lamps clear the front fender when under full compression and turning tightly .
Charlie - if you're in that situation you're just about to bid a high-speed fond farewell to the bike. As long as they clear the fender on full compression straight ahead, I think that would be enough.


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yeah its moving around the back yard , full of potholes ...and turning a bit .... but another 10mm up will be ok and will clear in all circumstances I guess


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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They are some serious potholes up there Charlie. Must be a bugger to mow the place.


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and its just getting worse Keith .. little or nill rain to speak of since march,  the dust patch  (used to be grass this time last year)  out the back is migrating with the winds into the house .....lol


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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so , cut down master reservoir fits in ok , with no bumping the fairing even on full frame to fork stops.....yippee !!!

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currently refinishing the paint and replacing broken odo gears in the instruments , I guess its an age thing , although ran them ok for many miles whilst on the bench ,,,,  go figure , but new gears installed , just to reassemble and recalibrate the needle position

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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just a week to go for club rego checks , so pretty excited to get the redframe on the road - soon


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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hopefully some suspension tuning today , with help from Smithy , something you just cant do by yourself - ie ride heights etc


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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Actually... almost not quite true. Put a small spirit level on the swingarm Very Happy


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I should have clarified that somewhat , yes it can be done , done it myself a few times , but gee with help can be done quick smart

thanks for the help today Craig , appreciate it !!


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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"Fred" sporting a new to me silencer ...looks great ...thanks "Brickman" (paul) ...heat shield arriving later in the week , but will need a fair bit of work

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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

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looks great Charlie  

should be proud of her


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