Around the World On a K100

Rick G · **301** Re: Around the World On a K100 Wed 23 Apr 2014, 23:22

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Sounds like you're Having fun.
I would only tap in far enough to make the surfaces even.

duck · **302** Re: Around the World On a K100 Wed 23 Apr 2014, 23:28

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like if there is any gap at any mount, its better to shim it then just pull it in with the bolts. This conflict has me seeking advise

I'd go with the process that the BMW manual recommends and shim per their instructions. Pulling it in with bolts will add stress to the frame that it's not designed for.

floyd · **303** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 17:30

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oooh yeah

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Kyle10 · **304** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 17:35

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That frame color choice is ace. 'Zat primer on the tank or the final color?

floyd · **305** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 17:38

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Kyle10 wrote:That frame color choice is ace. 'Zat primer on the tank or the final color?

Final. Flat Olive Drab (or Camo Green) - Official Australian Army since the 50's I think. Cheap, easy, aesthetically pleasing (to my eye) practical, cool etc etc Smile

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Kyle10 · **306** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 17:49

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This is gonna be good. Consider yourself a bit of an inspiration, Floyd.

charlie99 · **307** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 19:37

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ahhh!!! finally a red frame

looks good Floyd

AL-58 · **308** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 25 Apr 2014, 19:41

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Just needs an army canvas seat to match now.

Al

floyd · **309** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 01:39

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AL-58 wrote:Just needs an army canvas seat to match now.

Al

Thats not a bad idea! Wink

would chaff like a bugger though between the legs perhaps...

floyd · **310** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 01:40

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Question Gents....

When using K1100 throttle bodies and injectors - which fuel pressure regulator should I use? K1100/K100?

Rick G · **311** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 02:29

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The K100 FPR is the right one. It regulates to 2.5 bar and the later 16v FPR will regulate to 3 bar so you would end up running rich.

floyd · **312** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 02:52

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Thanks Rick.

Another Question:

Are the RS indicators/mirrors any good? I.e do the mirrors offer a decent view (also, Ill be using LT bars)?

I ask, as I have a cracked indicator lens and a missing mirror glass to replace - OR - just buy cheap 'fold down' enduro style mirrors, cheap dirt bike indicators - done....

Also, any suggestions for:

A) upgrades to the front light globe
B) after market 'driving lights' - im thinking small LED ones, mounted under the front headlight/fairing.

floyd · **313** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 03:14

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Driving Lights ... ?

Indicators

Mirrors

Thoughts?

Rick G · **314** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 03:23

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The RS and RT/LT all the mirrors give a very good view of your elbows and the RS ones have a real bad habit of coming off and it doesn't take much, so much so that many put a lanyard on the mirror so it just falls down and dangles till you stop.
Are you going to use a fairing If so get some mirrors that will fit on where the std mirrors fit and stick up a bit.
If I were going to mount spot lights again I would make a mount to fit where the mirrors fit.
I use 2 x 100W Narva lights on mine but I have the luxury of a 60 Amp alternator. I mounted them in the holes where the police lights were and they are fairly stable.

floyd · **315** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 03:27

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RicK G wrote:The RS and RT/LT all the mirrors give a very good view of your elbows and the RS ones have a real bad habit of coming off and it doesn't take much, so much so that many put a lanyard on the mirror so it just falls down and dangles till you stop.
Are you going to use a fairing If so get some mirrors that will fit on where the std mirrors fit and stick up a bit.
If I were going to mount spot lights again I would make a mount to fit where the mirrors fit.
I use 2 x 100W Narva lights on mine but I have the luxury of a 60 Amp alternator. I mounted them in the holes where the police lights were and they are fairly stable.

Got a pic mate?

I have the K1100 alternator fitted Smile

Where would you mount front indicators in the above scenario?

charlie99 · **316** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 03:29

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they look a good choice of lamp Floyd (driving lights ) good find

Rick G · **317** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 03:58

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This is an LT/RT fairing there is a plate under the mirror mounts that take the top mirror.
Separate posts as every time I try more than one pic to a post my darling little piece of crap drops its bundle.
Front indicators for an LT are in the fairing not the mirrors.

Rick G · **318** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 04:01

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Next pic is from front on so you can see how high they are.

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floyd · **319** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 14:35

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Thanks for the pics Rick.

Ended up taking the cheap option.

I do like the look of the RS mirror/indicators, but as I mentioned, I have a missing mirror glass and a broken indicator lens. TO fix will be $$$ and it may not result in the best outcome for my RT/A (Road Tour/Adventure) Smile

This is what Ive bought so far, still deciding on the mirrors:

Spot Lights (Will mount under headlight)

LED Indicators

Handguards

floyd · **320** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 14:37

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smithy wrote:

RicK G wrote:Just had a look at 2 blocks here and no inserts so maybe the guy you got those from used a tonne/furlong tension wrench
One of the blocks has a stripped thread so maybe it is fairly common.

Did you mean 15mm of thread in the hole, my thread list has a 15mm thread but would not be used in aluminium.

Out of curiosity, I'll go nock the bolt out of the rs which I know has never been out before, seems odd to me that three out of three engines, from completely different sources are the same. All have heli coils , and only 1/2 the 35mm hole is threaded.

I had a look at my 2 other engine blocks over the weekend. All of them had a section of smooth bore, the rest threaded, then a 15mm helicoil inserted....

Thats 3 from 3.
84RS 85RS 86LT.....

floyd · **321** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 26 Apr 2014, 14:42

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Kyle10 wrote:This is gonna be good. Consider yourself a bit of an inspiration, Floyd.

Thanks mate Smile

Thats the point I guess.
Well no, the main point is to get help!
The secondary point is for me to keep a record of it all - and then, yes, the point is to inspire in the same way this 'Renovation' section of the forum has so inspired me!

Geeeeez I cant wait to fire this beast up and go for a ride!

floyd · **322** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 00:26

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Ahhhhhh

Behold the awesomeness that is - :flower: THE UNCLES :flower:

and the minor awesomeness that is blue flower men. Not sure how the uncles would feel about the blue flower men though....hmmm....

Alas, I digress -

Not sure why they sent me 3 of the exact same tap though....

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In its new home, ready to be trimmed. Not sure if I used enough lock tite...

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This is one of the spare LH mount bolts I have with a much longer thread. Just playing around really.

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Love how the aluminium and the Bright Red powder coat look next to each other too. With the matt green against it, they really compliment each other in my opinion.

Rick G · **323** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 01:24

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Not sure why they sent me 3 of the exact same tap though....

Taper, intermediate and plug. Even though they are blurred that's what they look like.

floyd · **324** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 02:16

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RicK G wrote:Not sure why they sent me 3 of the exact same tap though....

Taper, intermediate and plug. Even though they are blurred that's what they look like.

Thats what he told me on the phone. He also said Id be able to easily tell them apart - to my eye they look identical. The label on each case is also the same.

Rick G · **325** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 02:59

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The end where they start cutting the thread. One would have full thread all the way to the bottom and the others more of a lead in.

Rick G · **326** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 03:01

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First is the intermediate then the taper at the back is the plug
And if you want a left handed thread just turn them the other way

floyd · **327** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 03:43

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Rick G · **328** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 03:49

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No wonder the soft focus is good for an aging woman if a blur can do that.
Intermediate all 6 of them.

floyd · **329** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 03:54

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here mate, have a flower man

:flower:

floyd · **330** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 03:55

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well, I guess the uncles cant be gods too.

Now I have 3 intermediate 14mm taps. Brand new. 1 used once.

duck · **331** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 04:08

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The RS mirrors work better with the extensions that came on the 4V bikes which can be easily retrofitted to a 2V RS. 10/11:

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duck · **332** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 28 Apr 2014, 04:13

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RS driving lights. Hella Micro DEs that I converted to HID. They rock.

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floyd · **333** Re: Around the World On a K100 Fri 02 May 2014, 20:39

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The steering head bearing adjuster was an absolute pain to get back on. even after cleaning al the threads up for an hour, it was still a total PITA to screw on. very very tight. will make adjusting it majorly difficult....

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Would a BMW dealer have a die capable of cleaning out the threads on the steering stem? The bearing lock bolt thingy screws into the adjuster thingy fine, smooth as. But the stem going into the adjuster is rough as!

charlie99 · **334** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sat 03 May 2014, 02:07

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a "good engineering shop "should be able to help out real quick Floyd

don't go to the beemer shop mate ..ive heard enough bs to fill a lifetime of misinformation

floyd · **335** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sun 04 May 2014, 00:11

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I have officially moved on from the milk crate stage. Yay!

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floyd · **336** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sun 04 May 2014, 02:01

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Anyone got a part number for #14?

Rick G · **337** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sun 04 May 2014, 02:04

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You get them from under a Holden Commode air filter box. Same as under the battery tray on the K100 so get some extras when you go to the wreckers.

duck · **338** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sun 04 May 2014, 08:25

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12141459190 (I have a 2001 ETK that allows me to look up old part numbers that have disappeared from online fiches.)

Apparently NLA since it doesn’t show on any online parts fiche.

Although similar to the battery tray ones, on K75/100s the 12141451909 was only used for ICU mounting.

Curiously, there were used for battery tray mounting on R80/100s though.

martyman · **339** Re: Around the World On a K100 Sun 04 May 2014, 14:48

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I'm really liking that color combination, can't wait to see it finished.

floyd · **340** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 02:22

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Hands up who's seen/used one of these before?

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Got me out of trouble today. Thanks to the old man and his humble tool chest residing in my bedroom to the delight (disgust) of my beautiful wife.

Called ProCycles in St Peters just to see if they had a 22mm fine thread die - nope they dont, but the so called master technician recommended a thread file. Quick google search resulted in an image similar to the one above. I recognised it immediately as a tool I had in the tool chest and had indeed seen all my life and always had no the slightest clue of its use.

Well, now I certainly do!

The side labelled "NU-THRED 0.75" did the trick nicely. took me about an hour of carefully filing, then testing with the adjuster nut, re filing, re testing etc. But now its like (almost) new!

Charlie, I also called 2 local engineering shops. one didnt answer the phone and the other couldnt do it...so thread file it was.

floyd · **341** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 02:32

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Cheers Rick and Duck for the rubber thingy info.

I have a brand new battery holder one here, already fitted to the bike - as I broke one of the originals when stripping the gearbox.

Can you totally confirm they are the same bolt size and the same height as the black box mounts? If not, Ill go and pull the battery holder off and have a look, but I seriously couldnt be arsed. A hot bath is awaiting to be truthful.

Anyways, either way, if the battery holder and the blackbox rubber bits are more or less interchangeable, ill order one (or 2, if they have the same thread size, but are of different heights...surely they are the same...)

charlie99 · **342** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 02:35

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exactly what was thinking ...those tools are great ....but unfortunately many modern day blokes take the easy way out and declare that if they don't have a die, it cant be done .......just lazy ...

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charlie99 · **343** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 02:47

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btw you can get those rubbers from rs components

be carefull as there are many variations of height width and thread length .. I paid about 4 buck each ...but some are 12 each ...

mine still vibrate and move as expected ...rather than some old and cured through mass of black stuff that don't move at all ...from the 20 + year old commodores

just a heads up

kartooo · **344** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 05:36

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floyd wrote:Hands up who's seen/used one of these before?

i fixed up the exaust threads on an airhead i owned.
great tool.

Rick G · **345** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 05:41

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Aren't they just great for fixing threads.
It not a real good one it hasn't got the ends for doing internal threads and they are the difficult ones.

floyd · **346** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 13:38

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:RicK G wrote: it hasn't got the ends for doing internal threads and they are the difficult ones.

Was wondering about that acctually....

Bloody wonderful tool it is indeed! The entire time i was using it all I could think was "this is a great tool"

Smile

Thanks for the rubber thingy info charlie.

Inge K. · **347** Re: Around the World On a K100 Mon 05 May 2014, 15:06

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floyd · **348** Re: Around the World On a K100 Tue 06 May 2014, 00:20

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Rick G · **349** Re: Around the World On a K100 Tue 06 May 2014, 00:27

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Looking good.........so you will make it this weekend then Laughing

floyd · **350** Re: Around the World On a K100 Wed 07 May 2014, 03:51

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RicK G wrote:Looking good.........so you will make it this weekend then

No drama, will be done by breakfast.

I better order the tyres now then....

Let the debate begin....Im reading through other tyre posts etc...but non the less....

If you were setting off around the world on this bike, what tyres would you shoe it with?

Its running the K1100LT front, and K100RS rear.

Getting a soft style dual sport tyre for the rear is fairly easy I think, but getting an 18" for the front is a different story. How do you guys feel about using a rear tyre on the front?

Or are the road based dual sports a bit of a wank?

I plan on raising the fork brace and fender about an inch to get good clearance for mud and muck. Would 20-25mm long, thick dia. aluminium tube as shims and longer bolts do the trick? Or would you loose a lot of stiffness?

AL-58 · **351** Re: Around the World On a K100 Wed 07 May 2014, 06:37

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Mostly for sidecar use but I've run rears on the front with no problems before.

My TDM900 was the same, if I wanted to run a dirt tyre up front it had to be a narrow rear. I think I used a 4.00-18 Metzeler Enduro 2 in that case.

When I build my rat, I'll be going that way again.

Al

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