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1Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty The lights gone out Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:42 pm

klompy the grey brick

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Hi all took my 84 K100RS for a quick spin prior to my oncoming Carpal Tunnel procedure and it now has a peculiar display fault you guys may be able to trouble shoot.....

Everything used to work as it should but now; 


  • the clock has no display at all
  • no neutral light in neutral or any other position
  • it only displays "3" in gear selector position no matter what gear selected 

Everything still functions but display does not...any ideas what could have caused all this to happen at once???

Has not got wet, she lives in a garage when not being ridden had no recent work carried out.

No doubt someone has experienced this before and may even be a simple cheap fix...:suspect:


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"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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2Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:20 am

rosskko

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Sounds like it is broken.

Best get yourself another.


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3Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:43 am

klompy the grey brick

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Another what...???


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"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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4Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:56 am

rosskko

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Sorry, first post should have said 'get yourself another one'

So just shop around for one.


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5Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:39 am

Waz

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I agree, you should have two.

    

6Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:19 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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If the gear sensor on the gearbox failed it would not cause the problem with the clock. I suspect it might cause a no neutral or stuck in 3 indicator but I imagine it would not affect the clock.

I am not sure if they are all routed through somewhere like ECU, but it seems to point to the clocks in some way. How good is battery??


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7Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:25 am

Crazy Frog

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Digital display and neutral light are working together and it could be the digital display unit having a problem.
This doesn't explain why the clock is not working.
Have you checked fuse #3?
Digital gear position and clock are sharing the same connector on the instrument cluster (pin #1 to 5). Have you checked that it has no became dislodged?
If it looks good:
Does the clock works if you disconnect the plug for the gear position indicator (plug on the right side of the bike near the radiator overflow?)
or
Does the gear indicator works if fuse #3 is removed?

Last question: Is the bulb monitoring working?

CF

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8Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:29 am

Rick G

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Why stop at 2?
Have a look at the earth on pin 13 they all work through that earth and so does the high beam light but other than that I cant find a common link.
Check the high beam light and if it's no go then you have 4 things with 1 common connection. Usually when things go out in bunches its an earth that's the problem
Check out the PC board and you may see a conductor that has broken.


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9Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:36 am

klompy the grey brick

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thanks guys shall trace some faults....and thank you Rossko...and Waz for suggesting getting another 2 things???


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"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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10Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:13 pm

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Good luck with the hands Klompmeister, I'll be next by the look, let me know how you get on after the o[p.
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11Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:24 pm

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Whatever about the lights you made me feel very welcome when I joined this forum. I hope all goes well for you and that you are back with us soon and back on the k sooner.

92KK.


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
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12Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:22 pm

klompy the grey brick

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Hi guys jiggled some wiring under the clocks and now have no displays at all other than high beam and indicators....not even battery, temp etc....mmmmm time to carry out op on the clock box...how do you pull this thing apart ??? without removing fairing for access.....

with only a left hand of course.....


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KKlompy The lights gone out 2854237993
"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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13Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:29 am

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I have worked out a scientific solution to your problem. The light problem is related to your hands. The K machine is aware of the impending loss of hand usage and remembered the old saying......many hands make light work.


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14Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:43 am

klompy the grey brick

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ainsjac wrote:I have worked out a scientific solution to your problem. The light problem is related to your hands. The K machine is aware of the impending loss of hand usage and remembered the old saying......many hands make light work.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...FUNNY BASTARD....


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KKlompy The lights gone out 2854237993
"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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15Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:45 am

rosskko

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All the best for tomorrow mate.
And if I don't see you before hand (or after hand) HAPPY BIRTHDAY for Saturday


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Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

16Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:16 am

klompy the grey brick

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rossko wrote:All the best for tomorrow mate.
And if I don't see you before hand (or after hand) HAPPY BIRTHDAY for Saturday
Thanks mate...Friday the 13th what could possibly go wrong...always felt that an extra hand out of my forehead would be "handy" lets see what happens as this is a government provided surgeon and there have been "cutbacks"....

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KKlompy The lights gone out 2854237993
"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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17Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:46 am

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Ok let see if I got this right, you are having a service job done on your hand as carcal tunnel and the lights have gone out on your bike. you cant ride after the op and you cant drive, so you will carpool. Seems to me theres no light at the end of the carpool tunnel so you will have to take a torch and remove the wiring harness connectors at the front of the binacle and look for the high  resistance issue. I'd offer a hand but I scared it might be catchy.


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18Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:54 am

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hope it goes well klompy ...got my fingers crossed for you


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19Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:01 am

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aha fingers crossed The lights gone out 44271


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20Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:05 am

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how come the smiley face that rolls around dont appear when its used??????????


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21Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:49 am

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all the best to you  Klompy, you might need to pick Sean and bella up on your way through.
and the three amigos can meet the crew at Carcoar.


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22Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:34 am

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K75cster wrote:Ok let see if I got this right, you are having a service job done on your hand as carcal tunnel and the lights have gone out on your bike. you cant ride after the op and you cant drive, so you will carpool. Seems to me theres no light at the end of the carpool tunnel so you will have to take a torch and remove the wiring harness connectors at the front of the binacle and look for the high  resistance issue. I'd offer a hand but I scared it might be catchy.
so many funny F#$%kers....and thats just using my rightthumb...seriously funny though...:BW:


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KKlompy The lights gone out 2854237993
"Grace" 1984 K100RS Silver VIN 0019026 Mitt eine Staintune Zorst.
"Olivia" 1997 K1100LT Dark Grey VIN WB1052600W0237453.









Chassis number0019026
Vehicle code0503
SeriesK589
ModelK 100 RS 83 (0502 ( 0503 )
Body typeK 100 RS 83 (0502
Catalog modelECE
Production date1984 / 07
Engine0513)

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23Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:26 pm

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I do believe I'd check all grounds for the cluster...

    

24Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:51 pm

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K75cster wrote:how come the smiley face that rolls around dont appear when its used??????????
Your smiley code was attached to the previous word and it was not treated as a code.
There is a difference between hello:laugh: and hello The lights gone out 44271(hello + space + code)


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25Back to top Go down   The lights gone out Empty Re: The lights gone out Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:18 pm

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OK Thanks CF will add a space next time I'm tormenting Klompy for sure. Some day I'm all fingers and thumbs he he
Brad man may be onto it grounds and where they exit the cluster may need a look see.


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