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1Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty K1100 FITTING Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:10 pm

ausbrick

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Hi all , hoping some of you other outfit owners could share the details of your setups . after track width ,lead and toe in if you know it this will give me a good starting point as to what works on the k bikes . Some pics of my setup so far.      Cheers ABK1100   FITTING 002_zps25439178                   K1100   FITTING 001_zps87473ba5                  K1100   FITTING 003_zps2a4c04f7

    

2Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:35 pm

rosskko

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Just because they are referred to as 'bricks' does not mean you have to incorporate them into your design.

"Oh, my new sidecar? Yeah, that's a 7 brick model"

btw. I have nothing useful to add here.

And The Little Old Lady who lived in a shoe called.
She wants it back.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

Basic/2 6308802K100CJ  05/1988

K1100RS 0194321
    

3Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:00 pm

Waz

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Rockman give me these as a starting point.

K1100   FITTING 100_0510
K1100   FITTING 100_0511
K1100   FITTING 100_0512
Mine looks a bit wide but it is a narrow body.
K1100   FITTING Img_1310


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K100 RS
K100RS with 1100 motor Premier sidecar
K100 RT KRAUSER FAIRING
R1200GS
650 Vstrom
    

4Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Mon Nov 24, 2014 6:23 pm

sidecar paul

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We sidecarists all have different ideas on set up and, generally they all work.

My preference is for 1½" to 1¾" for 'toe-in'. 
On testing, if it steers to the right with hands off, then reduce the 'toe-in'; conversely, if it steers to the left, increase the 'toe-in'. 

Sidecar wheel lead can be anything from about 8" to 15". The lower figure will assist left handers while the higher figure improves right handers. 
If the lead is too short the sidecar nose will tend to dip on right handers which, in turn, tends to lift the bike's back wheel.
If the lead is too long, then the sidecar tyre needs to scrub on left handers so the steering will be heavy, particularly when the chair is loaded.
In many cases the lead is dictated by the aesthetic positioning of the sidecar body with respect to the bike.  

Lean-out, in my opinion, is mainly cosmetic, about 1", say, at the handlebar height, but I never like to see lean-in. K1100   FITTING 167893  

Well that's how I do it and it works for me, but if you go by the maxim "if it looks right, then it probably is right", you won't be far out.

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

5Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:07 am

ausbrick

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Thanks  . That's pretty much what I have come up with from my research . Rossko its a ten brick, 3 out of sight behind the wheel and the red brick standing up. That's 10 out of 10 , can't beat that.

    

6Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:32 am

AL-58

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Internet is out at home. I'll measure up and report later.


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'93 K1100LT
'08 F650GS (798cc)
'19 R1250RS

+ another boxer engined motorcycle and sidecar

"When I'm too old and too foolish to handle a sidecar I'll buy a Sportsbike"

K1100   FITTING K-dogs10
    

7Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:09 am

Dai

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If you can afford it, what Sidecar Paul has not added is that a leading link front end will improve handling considerably. His avatar has one fitted (I think?).


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

8Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:47 pm

sidecar paul

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Yes, Dai, I have Wasp forks on my outfit.........and, after 26 years, I've just discovered the amazing improvement of using a round profile front tyre! cheers 

Paul.


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'84 K100RS (0014643) (owned since '85), 86 K100RS (0018891) with Martello sidecar (built as an outfit in '88),
'51 Vincent (since '67),'72 Montesa Cota (from new), '87 Honda RS125R NF4 (bought 2015) 
....No CARS never ever!
    

9Back to top Go down   K1100   FITTING Empty Re: K1100 FITTING Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:21 pm

Dai

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Ah! Yes - I remember the thread about it now.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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