302 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:49 pm
Oldgoat
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ahh, nice work mate. I think that is going to take something different. I'll send a pic to Tracey at autoillumination once I get mine out. No wonder the output is so poor on the gauges. Looks like a flashlight made for a small mouse, lol.
303 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:52 pm
charlie99
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
304 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:52 am
Oldgoat
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Hey guys,
A little off topic. Buddy just got a 79' R100. How much different is the valve adjust, ignition timing and carb sync than ours? I want to help him out a bit and he has very little experience with the old BMW's.
THanks!
OG
A little off topic. Buddy just got a 79' R100. How much different is the valve adjust, ignition timing and carb sync than ours? I want to help him out a bit and he has very little experience with the old BMW's.
THanks!
OG
305 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:10 pm
Guest
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1979 & 1980 only have points and condensor "in a can", easy to adjust, but fiddly to get at. Valve adjustment is by screw and feeler gauge. Be sure to re-torque the heads and take note of any 'tightness' in the exhaust valves setting, especially - valve seat recession, a common ailment in those years unless it's had the unleaded conversion done, meantime. Bing CV carb sync is basic, easy, but best done using Carbstix or vacuum gauges to get it right.
Head torque is 25 ft/lbs increased to 28.5 ft/lbs, be sure to have a squish of oil at the rocker arm's endplay. These are not shimmed like the later models, unless they've been updated ala 1985 on models.
Intake valves are .10mm (.004") and exhaust are .20mm (.008") Don't pay any attention to anyone telling you to set the exhaust side to .006"!
Idle is +/-900 rpm
Ignition timing is the 'S' mark on the flywheel at idle using a strobe, then a large dot appears at full advance...2600 rpm, I reckon's good..
Carbies are easy but best done with a syncro tool to keep good balance on an opposed engine. Leave a smidge of freeplay on both choke and throttle cables. Adjust only one side throttle cable to get level air 'pull' at revs.
There are tricks but it's pretty basic stuff. Enjoy!
Too easy.
Head torque is 25 ft/lbs increased to 28.5 ft/lbs, be sure to have a squish of oil at the rocker arm's endplay. These are not shimmed like the later models, unless they've been updated ala 1985 on models.
Intake valves are .10mm (.004") and exhaust are .20mm (.008") Don't pay any attention to anyone telling you to set the exhaust side to .006"!
Idle is +/-900 rpm
Ignition timing is the 'S' mark on the flywheel at idle using a strobe, then a large dot appears at full advance...2600 rpm, I reckon's good..
Carbies are easy but best done with a syncro tool to keep good balance on an opposed engine. Leave a smidge of freeplay on both choke and throttle cables. Adjust only one side throttle cable to get level air 'pull' at revs.
There are tricks but it's pretty basic stuff. Enjoy!
Too easy.
307 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:04 pm
Guest
Guest
Yep, early model with the old Ate calipers and likely 'points in a can', like a distributor under the front timing cover....remove the earth strap before you pull that cover!!! The diode board doesn't like shorts! Simple stuff, mate. Have fun.
308 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:19 pm
K-BIKE
Life time member
TWB's advice about removing the earth strap is important removing the can covering will often short out the diode board if you don't. Lots of advice on the net about fixing the R100's
Regards,
K-BIKE
Regards,
K-BIKE
309 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:01 pm
Oldgoat
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Thanks guys! So far so good. Kind of reminds me of my best buddies super beetle back in school.
OG
OG
312 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:42 pm
Guest
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Yep, I likes them the best of all of the factory grips. Cheap enough too! Cheers.
313 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:45 pm
Oldgoat
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Yeah, I was very pleasantly surprised what they cost from MAX.
315 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:08 pm
Oldgoat
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I'm sure most of you guys already know about this stuff. It is like the DeOxit gold of surface film protectors for rubber vinyl and plastic, and I've been using it on my old Flea-Bay fairing bits and pieces with much satisfaction. Also, the above original control switch on the left has been treated with it and the right one is a brand new unit from Motobins.
OG
OG
316 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:02 am
blaKey
Life time member
Yep, this is the stuff I use...you won't go back to that Amour-all.
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Neil
K100RS 1986 RED!
Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
317 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:55 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Ok guys its a long weekend here in the states so if I can carve out enough time in the garage and get everything thru final inspection going to try and complete final assembly and get her running. Fingers crossed!
OG
Getting all the sand out of the covers took a bit more time than I expected, but better clean than sorry.
OG
Getting all the sand out of the covers took a bit more time than I expected, but better clean than sorry.
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318 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:35 pm
charlie99
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oh wow ! ....exciting stuff og ......
good luck buddie ...gots my fingers crossed for ya
good luck buddie ...gots my fingers crossed for ya
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
321 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:59 pm
Guest
Guest
looks perty nice from this angle, but the sun does have a way in gettin' in our eyes down this way. A fine job, OG, I'd say. Reckon we could all use a bit of tartin' up.
BTW, how's our man ol' Jim Callaway!? He is something. Unique.
BTW, how's our man ol' Jim Callaway!? He is something. Unique.
322 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:15 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Lol, yep most of us are suckers for the pretty ones aren't we mate! Jim is doing good and has been such an integral part of my schooling in all things vintage BMW. He finally sold his beloved RS to a friend who promptly totaled it!!
OG
OG
323 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:01 pm
blaKey
Life time member
Your bike is gunna be one sharp looking machine when it's finished.
Very nice work Oldgoat.
Very nice work Oldgoat.
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Neil
K100RS 1986 RED!
Dress for the ride and the potential slide.
324 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:21 am
robmack
Life time member
Very nice job, OG. I really enjoy reading this thread because it covers alot of topics and prompts people to contribute good suggestions. Your ideas are also inspiring.
Best of luck getting her on the road.
Best of luck getting her on the road.
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1987 K75 @k75retro.blogspot.ca
325 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:49 am
Oldgoat
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Thanks guys! Wouldn't have made it this far without this board and all your help.
OG
OG
326 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:55 am
Oldgoat
Life time member
Think I found another cause of the weeping valve cover along with the cracked rubber donuts. The gasket channels in the valve cover were just a mess with baked on junk and black goo and the gasket wouldn't lie flat. After some acetone, utility knife work and some Q-tip madness hopefully it will be drip free.
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327 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:16 am
charlie99
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mmmmm could eat of that (ifn ya held your nose , that acetone sure does stink ) lol s
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
330 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:02 pm
K-BIKE
Life time member
That's where a crafty use of the dishwasher on a hot cycle comes in whilst SWMBO is out for an hour or so it makes a good job of cleaning up parts. Best to whack some crockery in there afterwards though and set it running to allay any suspicions. That way when she comes back you get a gold star for running the dishwasher and super clean parts.
Regards,
K-BIKE
Regards,
K-BIKE
331 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:15 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
OMG K nearly dropped my soda when I read this!
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334 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:58 pm
charlie99
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omg ...too good to ride .....giggles ....
sweet mate !!!
sweet mate !!!
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
335 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:53 pm
336 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:59 am
Oldgoat
Life time member
Running wires for sensors & pump cover on. 24 hours for full cure and can start adding fluids.
New sensors all torqued down and wired up.
[url=https://servimg.com/view/16262455/278][/url]
New sensors all torqued down and wired up.
[url=https://servimg.com/view/16262455/278][/url]
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337 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:02 am
Oldgoat
Life time member
Gonna get the FI & intake in tomorrow and FINALLY test the tank. Hopefully will be firing her up on the 4th for the first time in almost ten months. If I can swipe a mini cam from someone I will try to post a short clip.
OG
OG
338 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:27 am
Guest
Guest
Nice job, OG, those refinished bits are almost perty enough to have sex with, maybe yummy enough to eat, or at the very least good enough to drink! Now to hear it purr. Kudos.
339 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:32 am
Oldgoat
Life time member
Lol, thanks mate! I've got my fingers crossed that all this has cleaned up the fuel delivery problems and that she will be running properly now...
OG
OG
340 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:47 am
Oldgoat
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342 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:49 pm
345 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:09 am
club_c
Life time member
Have a spare set of plugs handy. I had one new one foul once and it gave me a headache, even after I cleaned it well. What did you do with the intake cam with the marked lobe?
346 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:43 am
Oldgoat
Life time member
Yeah, C I was thinking the same thing and it's certainly a little late to try and be cheap at this point, lol!
Had the #3 lobe polished and I have a very clean 85 intake waiting in the wings if/when my little experiment doesn't work out.
OG
Had the #3 lobe polished and I have a very clean 85 intake waiting in the wings if/when my little experiment doesn't work out.
OG
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347 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:45 am
348 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:24 am
charlie99
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wholly hell ...looks better than new ......
lookin good og
lookin good og
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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )
'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ######## "Red" - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
349 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:43 am
geordnz
Silver member
Oldgoat, once again, stunning pictures and explanations on what you are doing.. and often why. I'm sure it gives a lot of us ideas..!!!
Well done as usual.
On the relay box, after recently doing the "deoxit" treatment, I have wondered what the other plugs were for in the box. One looks very similar to my fuel tank plug?
Well done as usual.
On the relay box, after recently doing the "deoxit" treatment, I have wondered what the other plugs were for in the box. One looks very similar to my fuel tank plug?
350 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:16 am
charlie99
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it'll be good og ....dont worry mateOldgoat wrote:Yeah, C I was thinking the same thing and it's certainly a little late to try and be cheap at this point, lol!
Had the #3 lobe polished and I have a very clean 85 intake waiting in the wings if/when my little experiment doesn't work out.
OG
351 Re: 85 RS restoration (part #1) Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:50 pm
Oldgoat
Life time member
Thanks guys! Had to work yesterday so no more progress.
OG
OG
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