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1Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty All lights dim at idle Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:18 am

fishboy316

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Was reading Dai's recent post. I am going through something similar. Replaced the headset bearings. Went to pull it off the stand and happened to look at the sight window and the oil was over the window. Ok was about time for an oil change anyway. Fuel had poured in the oil. Found an injector stuck open. Pulled the injectors Cleaned them all, reinstalled injectors. Problem solved. Put her clothes back on. Was reinstalling the seat and I pushed to far tearing the rear hinge apart. Played around with that and at least got the seat to hold. Going to need a new hinge. Started her up, sounded good. I then noticed the lights dimming at idle. All lights are dimming at idle. Threw my hands up and walked away. All lights dim at idle 259495 All lights dim at idle 61740 Will be looking into it more this evening. Will test the system to see if the alternator is charging properly and go from there. She is running great aside from that. 

I have to say that I have been looking at the Z900rs lately and times like these it looks really good! 

Any suggestions would be great.

    

2Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:23 am

Dai

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Define 'idle' in rpm? IIRC the alternator doesn't kick out full power until on the the upside of 1100rpm. BMW's recommended idle of 980rpm should just see the alternator light flickering very dimly, if at all. The immediate suspect is the start motor brushes and the starter motor is a bit easier to get out than the alternator.

Just think: if you bought a Z900 you wouldn't have all the fun of fixing it yourself Twisted Evil but you would have the fun of paying out $$$$$$ to the repair shop when something goes wrong.


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3Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 am

fishboy316

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Laughing That is one of the reasons I still have my BRICK.  Lots of money. Idle is just between 900 and 1000 rpm depending on how she feels.

    

4Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:06 am

fishboy316

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Got her working very well. Tested with battery tester found charge rate good(14.1 @2500rpm) Battery tests good. Cleaned all my ground connections. Took  it out for a 20 mile run, ran great. Sure have missed my k-bike. Been down since May. The new headset bearings were like butter! The new BT-46's felt great! Was a great ride. Need to check the brake fluid as today on the way in to work the brake light on the dash came on. Shocked

Bill

    

5Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Thu Aug 22, 2024 12:29 pm

Dai

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What was the problem (just for future info for others)?


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6Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Thu Aug 22, 2024 1:14 pm

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fishboy316 wrote:Need to check the brake fluid as today on the way in to work the brake light on the dash came on. Shocked

Bill
I might be wrong…but isn’t the brake warning light associated with the bulb monitoring unit, rather than the brake fluid level. I’m not aware of a level or pressure sensor in the front or rear brake systems. The times when mine has illuminated during a ride (I.e after clearing the bulb monitoring unit & ABS warnings by operating both brake levers and riding off) has been due to the bulb blowing.


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"Heidi" K100LT 1991 (Grey) (VIN 0190172 Engine No. 104EB 2590 2213) - 5th owner. January 2014 (34,000 - 82,818 miles and counting....)
"Gretel" K100LT 1989 (Silver Grey) (VIN 0177324 Engine No. 104EA 2789 2211) - 4th+ owner. September 2015 (82,684 miles and counting....). Cat C Insurance write-off rebuild Feb 17
"Donor" K100LT 1990 (Red)  (VIN 0178091 Engine gone to Dai) - 6th & final owner (crash write-off now donor bike).   June 2012 (73,000 miles) to November 2013 (89,500 miles)
    

7Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:06 pm

Point-Seven-five

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Born Again Eccentric wrote:
fishboy316 wrote:Need to check the brake fluid as today on the way in to work the brake light on the dash came on. Shocked

Bill
I might be wrong…but isn’t the brake warning light associated with the bulb monitoring unit, rather than the brake fluid level. I’m not aware of a level or pressure sensor in the front or rear brake systems. The times when mine has illuminated during a ride (I.e after clearing the bulb monitoring unit & ABS warnings by operating both brake levers and riding off) has been due to the bulb blowing.
+1  Either a blown bulb or one of the brake switches isn't working.  Also a chance that something got unplugged in the brake light wiring.


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8Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:01 pm

fishboy316

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Went over the brakes, all good. Set the preload up front as it loosened last night. The bike is running and riding better than I can remember. Didn't remember about the bulb monitoring. Will check all of them tomorrow. 

Dai: All I did on the fading lights was let it sit on the tender overnight and tested the system the next day. All tested good. cleaned the grounds and it went away. 

I am happy with the way she is running and riding now. Was contemplating selling and getting a different bike but I am just so impressed with the way the K is handling ands  running I am just going to keep it.  Smile

    

9Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Fri Aug 23, 2024 4:52 pm

Two Wheels Better

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fishboy316 wrote:Set the preload up front as it loosened last night. The bike is running and riding better than I can remember.
You have adjustable preload in your front suspension?


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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

10Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Fri Aug 23, 2024 5:17 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I have a few K100s....using the brakes at night does make the alternator light glow at idle. On all of them. All checked for output and all with good regulators since tills.de sell them for peanut money.

Doesnt happern on my K1100.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

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1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
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1970 Honda CD 175
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11Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:56 pm

Dai

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:Doesnt happern on my K1100.
Different alternator. IIRC the 50amp ones start generating full power pretty much at tickover.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

12Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:00 pm

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Dai wrote:
92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:Doesnt happern on my K1100.
Different alternator. IIRC the 50amp ones start generating full power pretty much at tickover.
I concur. Big Block's 50a unit, after an initial throttle stab to gain revs, sits at 14.2v at an 850/900 rpm tickover.


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13Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:01 am

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Dai wrote:
92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:Doesnt happern on my K1100.
Different alternator. IIRC the 50amp ones start generating full power pretty much at tickover.

Exactly, thats why I mentioned the K1100. I take a bike out every day so I get to swap around and means no topping up batteries etc.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

14Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:49 am

fishboy316

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Thanks for the replies gents. It is working great. The front brake switch was not connected completely. Had the bike torn apart for a couple of months and it was a casualty. cleaned and reconnected. Works great now.

Bill

    

15Back to top Go down   All lights dim at idle Empty Re: All lights dim at idle Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:54 am

fishboy316

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Two Wheels Better wrote:
fishboy316 wrote:Set the preload up front as it loosened last night. The bike is running and riding better than I can remember.
You have adjustable preload in your front suspension?
I replaced the bearings in the Steering head. They were notchy. They are like BUTTER now. Was the bearing preload.

    

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