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Very nice and speedy work gents!

How long have you had Gerty for Charlie?

Reading this last page makes me glad I bought new cush rubbers for the output shaft. The ones in all my shafts were shagged. The shaft bit and the geared bit would just slide apart easy as anything. The brand new rubbers were soooo much tighter. Even with heaps of lube I had to press the 2 halves back together again with the new rubbers fitted.

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charlie99 wrote:well the old girl is running again ..quite impresivly ...thanks to albys great work some things we acheived today

more to come when i get home ....but a sweet sound

Beautiful to see this thread but I have to ask where do I get one of these tools in the photo above, what's it called ( I think I know its a gas analyser of some sort. I want to do my own tunups, see . . .

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Be made wrote:Beautiful to see this thread but I have to ask where do I get one of these tools in the photo above, what's it called.

Search..........Carbtune.

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Floyd ....about 3 years ol mate ...bought her in November 2011 on the road just before Christmas the month after ...just on some where over 60,000 ks closer to 90,000 kilometres since then ....my odo stopped last year sometime ...and I figure iv put somewhere between 10- 30,000 since then ...sorry cant think of all the trips since

bemade

those are branded carbtune ...but often called carbsticks ...if that helps wish I had some as well ...just to keep it all in trim

took gerty out for a visit down south today ...without a wash as yet ...the idea being to spot any oil leaks etc after a good run ....

I met a friend of my brothers dirtbikers mob down at chillingham (nsw border region ) and explored many of the local roads, he on his aprillia thingy (about 100 hp ) and "as light as" more a super trailbike with all the road stuff ...he calls it a "super postie" (poor bugger hasn't learned road surfaces and riding styles yet... still a bushbasher at heart I recon ) ...he was continually slowing through the middle of corners ...oh well hell learn I guess

found some awesome twistys that are just fantasic ...with good road surface to boot ...ill be recommending some of them in coming events ...chalk another 500 ks away for the day

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and a cleanup for gerty this coming week (ill have to repaint some of the scratches that occurred during the works

again I have to thank alby for his fantastic skill, dedication , and good will, for putting so much into getting this old girl back on the road ....thanks mate, really appreciate all the help and camaraderie

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Gotem :_))

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbtune-Carburettor-Balancer-Carb-sync-Vacuum-Gauges-/290724003198

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Be made wrote:Gotem :_))

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbtune-Carburettor-Balancer-Carb-sync-Vacuum-Gauges-/290724003198

I actually made this based off this guy's writeup:
DIY Manometer

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I used one like that after some hole stole my vacuum gauges. Only problem is if one TB is way out it will drink all the oil before you can blink.

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Kyle10 wrote:

Be made wrote:Gotem :_))

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carbtune-Carburettor-Balancer-Carb-sync-Vacuum-Gauges-/290724003198

I actually made this based off this guy's writeup:
DIY Manometer

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bit of a repaint

blooming plastic adhesive layer didnt take well in a couple of spots

parts going back in

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well get there one day

ride tomorrow ?

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looking good there charlie
and those twisties look like fun Shocked

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woohoo new leds arrived for the instrument cluster

"old goat " had done some investigation (with much advice from other members ) into inverted leds (read wider spread angle of illumination than standard leds )

well i finally got some from a local source..... and well priced under 18 dollars for 8 (delivered )...seems about right to me

might take a while to apply ...have to find some gears for the odometer first

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You are obviously so excited Chas you neglected to mention the "local source". Any hints ?

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lol gordo ...thanks for the reminder mate

you might notice that they are white as well

seems to fit in with the scheme that i started with the additional gauges ... may help my poor old eyes out a little eh ?

look up "bl led optronics " on ebay ...maybe i got a link here somewheres ....for me just a couple of suburbs away ...i see that there is another supplier in south aussie (adelaide ?) as well

try this linky
http://www.bl-led.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=77_5_20_11

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Charlie...you always come up with BRIGHT ideas.

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thought to put the new head cover rubbers in old gerty on the weekend

also to chase down a noisy lifter thingamajig ... got some measurement s of the valve clearances ...one it too tight (inlet on 1 ) one is too loose (exhaust on 3 ) maybe im lucky and can swap them over ?

so some pics

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I had to ride the old girl up nebo to check for oil leaks ....I mean I just had to
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a view from one of the lookouts ......was chilly up there too must have been in the mid teens ...and a cool blast of wind
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Hi Charlie, good going :-)

First time I check the clearances on the older Ks I always remove the shims and measure them with a micrometer. That then, with the measured clearances, allows me to mixnmatch as best as possible. It also shows you where you are within the range of shims BMW has available, allowing for some understanding where you are for future purpose, particularly for the non-unleaded versions :-)

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Looking really good Charlie, what a good job you are doing. I got some shims here, from Precision Shims Australia and they were quiet a bit cheaper than Motobins/Munich. I can send you up what I have left over if you want to mix n match.

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How often should we look at the clearances on our old girls?

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I check mine every 20000km but usually nothing needs changing. In 8 years of Marg having the K75 I have only changed 1 shim in 60000km. The K1100 has had a few changes but mainly after a settling in after the head swap and cam changes but once they settle then it is unusual to change any. I always check because finding one shim that has changed twice can mean problems developing with the valves.

WARNING Always check the clearances before you remove the spark plugs because loose carbon can get under the valve seat on the exhaust valves giving bigger readings than actual and if you replace the shim then it will close up next time you start the engine.

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Charlie, your handlebars appear a bit high for a sport touring bike (i.e. RT).

Have you ever considered lowering them to about 10cm above the faring? I've found it improves handling and reduces wind blast at speed. cheers

See my signature for further details.

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have recently acquired some "c" bars aj

in time, these things will be trialed ol mate ....

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That's looking sweet Charlie. Can't wait to see Gerty again, in person.

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my led upgrade to instruments went ahead at last

bit of a shadow around the top left of the speedo
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add another led ? why not ?
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after on the bench
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on the bike ........bit hard to get a good focus at nighttime

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thanks to mr klompy i have some gears that are likely to turn the odometer as well ....yippeee ....see if i can push the old girl up a few more official killometers ...(only been about 15,000 since it last worked ....grin )

still have an awefully worring tic from the engine (sounds like a lifter to me ) that apears to be the loudest on the righthand side whilst riding ...is this a likely thing ? hmmmmm

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Chazza,
you're up well past 209,000+ klicks, that's about 130,000 miles in the right upper western hemisphere quadrant of the free world. Not bad for a 25+ year old geezer that can still exite in a tight corner. We can perhaps forgive her a few extra noises from down below.

I just rode from Seattle to San Fran this weekend (1,100 miles the long way, but 800 miles on the freeway) on the RT with 127,000 miles on the odo, and she did everything she could to keep me happy, and did. You've gotta love a girl who can do that at an advanced age.

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Two Wheels Better wrote:Chazza,
you're up well past 209,000+ klicks, that's about 130,000 miles in the right upper western hemisphere quadrant of the free world. Not bad for a 25+ year old geezer that can still exite in a tight corner. We can perhaps forgive her a few extra noises from down below.

I just rode from Seattle to San Fran this weekend (1,100 miles the long way, but 800 miles on the freeway) on the RT with 127,000 miles on the odo, and she did everything she could to keep me happy, and did. You've gotta love a girl who can do that at an advanced age.

Everything!

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got the main bearings out on the bottom end ...everything looks fine

a couple of thou gaps 0.050mm seem consistent with a nice polish on all the bigends and journals and the age and work of the motor

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Hi Charlie....you probably allready know, but I mention it anyway........

At big end and crankshaft bearings usually stretch bolts is used, which should
be renewed whenever they are disturburbed......nuts also is of various lock
types which also usually should be renewed.

You identify a stretch bolt by that it have one (or more) short parts of the length
that have a smaller diameter than the rest.

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good reminder inge ...thanks

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timing cover work
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Love your work Charlie.

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still have an awefully worring tic from the engine (sounds like a lifter to me ) that apears to be the loudest on the righthand side whilst riding ...is this a likely thing ? hmmmmm

mmm . . Right had side is crankshaft side . . . . I had one of these. was a big end bearing not reassembled correctly by the engine reconditioner who was not me . . hope its not that. If it ever gets SUDDENLY louder STOP the engine immediately and do not pass go, do not collect 200$$

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charlie99 wrote:got the main bearings out on the bottom end ...everything looks fine

a couple of thou gaps 0.050mm seem consistent with a nice polish on all the bigends and journals and the age and work of the motor

I assume you KNOW to use the radial diameter protractor and tighten the bolts to, I think it is 80 degrees PAST the touque setting. I think that is the other thing that might have tripped my ex mechanic up. READ THE OWNERS WORKSHOP MANUAL, HAYNES about this, apparently MOST CRITICAL. There is a pdf on the net if you want one or I can email it to you if you do not already have it

cheers

hope this helps somehow

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Two Wheels Better wrote:I just rode from Seattle to San Fran this weekend (1,100 miles the long way, but 800 miles on the freeway) on the RT with 127,000 miles on the odo, and she did everything she could to keep me happy, and did. You've gotta love a girl who can do that at an advanced age.

Yep, I have to agree. Mine, when I got it, had 110000 on the clock.

Off topic I know, but I gotta say this:

I had no history about this thing, a standard LT back then, but I took it for a super strop north, 280ks return the night I got it home.

Pissing down rain, extreme revs in top gear most of the way. The thing impressed me so much, how it handled and took off like a rocket, stunningly awesome ride. I thought . . wowo . . 1989, 110ks and going like its near new!. Ever since then I have ultimate respect for this model of frame and running gear. I never want to change but I assume that one day I may be forced to, with age (me, not the bike). The only thing I can see me getting in to @ age 65or 70+ would be a canam 3 wheeler

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will be torquing up on the weekend ....and will definatly read the advice ... thanks for the reminders

i do have a degree wheel here as well

this one. straight off the printer ...and mounted ...just have to drill the right sized hole ?

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Reminds me of a bloke I knew....swallowed a thermometer....died by degrees.

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And that reminds me of the bloke I knew who drank furniture polish. He met a painful end. But he had a beautiful finish!

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Bit off topic but the new office gal is so good looking ,,I,d use her sh*t for toothpaste...although probably not much good for lapping valves in with

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I was not going to throw one in here but I just cant resist, sorry charlie.

Was talking to a Taxi driver today, he sed he had the best night ever. He took "all these woman home". I sed yeah, but that's what you do for a job. He sed yeah, but the best fare of the whole night was the last one, when he took the prostitute home, and SHE paid HIM! . . . . 85 rt resto ...my attempt ...hey im not into making a show bike ... - Page 16 44271

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delving deeper

bottom end back on and tightened
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and onto the next bit in the top end
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cams and journals look fine

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but some interesting score marks on the followers
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painted up the small "hes" cover plate to match the timing cover

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and together with the timing cover
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ill probably just find the best looking options for the cam followers ...( have a few here ) and reinstall the whole lot witha stethescope area finding challenge ahead ....havent discounted the alternator coupling just yet could have oopsed durring the output shaft rebuild ?

just hope it isnt a "little end " giving up ....sigh!

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Out of curiosity..while you have the front off might pay to pull the water pump cover and see if there is any lateral movement??

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hmm... could be a worthwile test alby

any suggestons at this stage would be helpfull

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Do I see a bit of discolouration on the welch plug there or am I seeing things just because its been seen recently.

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ill have a look tomorrow rick
but all the welsh plugs apear to be in great condition

perhaps ..its oil ?

just ran it before the remooval of the timing cover

thanks for the heads up
pic for clarification

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at albys suggestion pulled the pump assemblys as well ,
all looks good in there so no surprises anyhow

i exchanged a couple of lifters for ones less marked near the top , left is the one out of the bike ..right the replacement ..did a few of them
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so started throwing it back together

simple maccano for big boys
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young alby turned up with nicci ...so had a small break before continuing

hows this looking ?

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ill let the sealants cure overnight before filling with water and running her up to temperature

fingers crossed ....but i think i have to try other things .... nothing i saw was at fault ..so far

perhaps alternator drive rubbers or possibly (dont want to think it) ..little end issues

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That is the shinniest waterpump cover i have seen yet,
looks great charlie cheers

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Did you end up putting in new cush rubbers in the output shaft?

On all 4 of the shafts I examined, the rubbers were all completely crushed to the point where the two halves of the shaft would freely slide apart and there was lateral movement as well.

Engine looks great. What do you use for a primer? I have not had much luck priming and painting raw aluminium for some reason....

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k-rider wrote:That is the shinniest waterpump cover i have seen yet,
looks great charlie

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wow rob ! .... very nice

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Yeah but mines got more stone chips than yours Razz

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floyd wrote:What do you use for a primer? I have not had much luck priming and painting raw aluminium for some reason....

I polished and painted mine, very successful, now nearly 10000ks down the track and no chipping, flaking or discoulration. I got the cases polished by the shop and got hold of this new paint called Diamonshine on the market from Kbs coatings:

http://www.kbs-coatings.com/DiamondFinish-Clear.html

one coat

I should really polish and paint my waterpump cover as well one day I suppose

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charlie99

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charlie99

774 Re: 85 rt resto ...my attempt ...hey im not into making a show bike ... Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:43 am

Two Wheels Better

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charlie99

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Be made

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charlie99

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charlie99

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