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Waz · 1 Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:32 am

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I am about to clean up an old police bike that was converted to an endurance racer then a camping side car then to a solo.
Photos from Phils collection.

Bought from Rockman a couple of weeks ago in Inverell a 16 hour return drive with my son, he hated the bike and the trip but that doesn't matter because I loved it and enjoyed every hour I tourchered him.

As soon as I fitted blinkers and tail light my son who hates it took off on it and has hardly lifted his rs off it, he still claims to hate it but will not get off it.

Just got back from a run to Orange a 9 hour return drive to get almost evey thing I will need. Son was not interested ( he was out on my bike) so his mother had to suffer the trip west.
Now have a complete lt fairing and another DJP sidecar frame, rear wheel hub adaptor for car tyre and a couple of bodies to chose from. Can't thank Col enough.

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Rick G · 2 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:52 am

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OoooHHoo worst case of K-pox I have ever seen.

Do you think you can save him doctor or has it gone too far?

Waz · 3 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:39 am

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I think I still need a naked and a K1 for a full set.

My wife blames all of you.

Garyk100 · 4 Non comfy Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:47 am

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I too would be pissed if I had to kneel in the chair for 16 hours, zorst looks good

Rick G · 5 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:03 am

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Waz wrote:My wife blames all of you.

I got broad shoulders.

charlie99 · 6 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:09 am

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wow waz ...
keep at it mate

will be watching

cheers

smithy · 7 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:16 am

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Hey Waz , that's a great project , you've got some good bits , I'm looking forward to seeing that come together.
So young Waz is a closet K rider now! Lets hope he comes out of the closet one day, and realizes how good the Ks are.

k-wopper · 8 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:42 am

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"Tourchered" I love it. Been there done that!
Rob
p.s I want a side hack

88 · 9 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:00 pm

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I like proper K wheel on the hack Transformed again 112350

Rockman · 10 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:26 am

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Good stuff Waz. Hope you have a good run with it. I'll be interested to see how it ends up this time around.

Waz · 11 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:56 am

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Lets hope he comes out of the closet one day, and realizes how good the Ks are.

He knows how good they are but he refuses to admit it to me. I have been brain washing him for years just like my old man preached the K word to me, dad was amazed how ahead of there time the K's were. I think they still are ahead of a lot of new builds. I can not understand why thay are not more expensive. They are classic. Look what you started Smithy. I'll stop now.

Thanks Phil
It will have the wedge shape body and sit a little bit lower this time. Still undecided on colour.
I don't think it will be that hard most of it is just painting and fitting the bits, as you would know there is nothing to do mechanically.

Will starting after the long week end. I have to finish the RS this weekend before I start another.

Waz · 12 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:00 am

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I have been hunting around wreckers with a hub adaptor in my hand trying to find a suitable rim. Found a space saver spare wheel and tyre to fit the hub adaptor then replaced the 80klm speed limited little tyre with a 145 80 15. It was easier than I though it would be. Still have to remove the sticker

AL-58 · 13 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:04 am

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I've got the same tyre but in 165/80-15 (near enough to the same circumference as the original size). Good tyre.

Al

Waz · 14 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:13 am

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Glad to hear it's a good one, will it make much difference to speedo?

Ed · 15 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:00 pm

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good to hear you getting the rear sorted Waz. easy cleaning with that rim too, well done.
nice stuff there from Col as well.
does anyone know where I might get hold of a torsion axle for the DJP frame? mine is lacking this at present.

AL-58 · 16 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:44 pm

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Waz wrote:Glad to hear it's a good one, will it make much difference to speedo?

Just crunched the numbers in Excel. 3% more revs for the same speed with the 165, 9% more for the 145.

Al

Waz · 17 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:51 pm

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I have an old one if you want it. It has a mini hub.

This one you can adjust the angle you attach the arm to raise or lower hight. I can get the name from the box tomorrow if you want to order a new one.

Waz · 18 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:53 pm

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Thanks AL

AL-58 · 19 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:21 pm

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groverK wrote:
does anyone know where I might get hold of a torsion axle for the DJP frame? mine is lacking this at present.

Looks like this:
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http://www.trailerwarehouse.com.au/contents/en-us/d30.html

Most people I've seen seem to have replaced it with some sort of swingarm/shock absorber combo.

Al

Rick G · 20 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:32 pm

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I wouldn't use one of those rubber things for any money. They bounce twice as bad as a leaf spring and have no way to put a good shockie on them. We used them on the boat trailers until we had some customers complaining the aluminium boats were cracking up if they towed long distance.
To put it quite bluntly they are crap.

Ed · 21 Re: Transformed again Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:58 pm

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AL-58 wrote:

groverK wrote:
does anyone know where I might get hold of a torsion axle for the DJP frame? mine is lacking this at present.

Looks like this:

http://www.trailerwarehouse.com.au/contents/en-us/d30.html

Most people I've seen seem to have replaced it with some sort of swingarm/shock absorber combo.

Al

thats the one folks, mine has been replaced or modified with a full width axle with some crude shockie mount attached on the bike side.
I wanted to give it some clean original lines.

Ed · 22 Re: Transformed again Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:01 am

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Thanks for the offer Waz , hope to catch up with you soon , and swap some axle parts over.
we might even manage a workshop day .

not sure if it's me or the angle of the pic , does the orange rig have extra ground clearance to the original RT.
is it possible to get extra pics of your under seat cross brace that holds the rear strut mount for the chair, assuming that is what can be seen on the bike frame.

Waz · 23 Re: Transformed again Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:13 pm

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Must be the angle Ed, same hight.

Both brackets are joined by a flat bar

Who makes the scones?

Ed · 24 Re: Transformed again Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:25 pm

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looked higher , must be just the rig that makes it look high.
that strut brace appears to be easy to make and takes up less space.
I hear there is a top sKone maker in Robertson ?

Ed · 25 Re: Transformed again Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:50 pm

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Waz , what size is the axle stub hole for the new swing arm?

Crazy Frog · 26 Re: Transformed again Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:40 pm

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Waz wrote:I have been hunting around wreckers with a hub adaptor in my hand trying to find a suitable rim. Found a space saver spare wheel and tyre to fit the hub adaptor then replaced the 80klm speed limited little tyre with a 145 80 15. It was easier than I though it would be. Still have to remove the sticker

145 80 15 is the size of my rear tire on the hack. This is the tires from the old VW beetle cars and here in NA they become difficult to find.
If I remember correctly, the rim is a 15/70

Nice rig Waz.

I am not jealous but envious.

CF

RT · 27 Transformed again Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:46 am

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S Kones in Robertson are the best, but you might want a Ural rig up here at the moment, getting a bit icy.
That garage is getting a bit full Waz, you might have to knock down a wall into the lounge room.

Rockman · 28 Re: Transformed again Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:56 am

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groverK wrote:

AL-58 wrote:

groverK wrote:
does anyone know where I might get hold of a torsion axle for the DJP frame? mine is lacking this at present.

Looks like this:

http://www.trailerwarehouse.com.au/contents/en-us/d30.html

Most people I've seen seem to have replaced it with some sort of swingarm/shock absorber combo.

Al

thats the one folks, mine has been replaced or modified with a full width axle with some crude shockie mount attached on the bike side.
I wanted to give it some clean original lines.

Trailer spares people sell them. You can get a 1/2 axle which gives you one side, which is what you want. Available in different weights.

Waz · 29 Re: Transformed again Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:47 am

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what size is the axle stub hole for the new swing arm?

1 inch Groover

Nice rig Waz

Thank you Mr Frog

That garage is getting a bit full Waz, you might have to knock down a wall into the lounge room.

I know RT it's the obvious sollution but I have met with resistance from the cook.

Waz

Ed · 30 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:25 am

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theres a possibilty I might be coming down your way during the school holidays, might try and fit in a visit, 5- 6 July.
most likely on Saturday 5th. with a morning session to swap sidecar bits.
I'll be heading through to Batemans Bay to meet up with the kids on school holidays. and returning on Sunday 6th.

Waz · 31 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:25 am

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I'll make the scones, I like RT's but may have a go at Mr Smiths with coopers.

The rear wheel fits but a little off centre.

Plenty of clearance

Can fit without removing exhaust but takes just as long trying to make it all line up, three hands would help

Guest · 32 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:16 am

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A dab of grease on that bloody spacer sure helps. Shocked

I never take the zorst off and you just get used to doing the job....or send Smithy an email and he might pop over and give you a hand!

Gaz · 33 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:35 am

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Hey Waz, after having been lucky enough to enjoy the hospitality of the said Smith family and enjoying watching the baker extraordinaire in action producing pizza I would reckon any recipe he suggested would be well worth doing.

Having no experience at all with an outfit I'm completely unqualified to offer a suggestion but - if you have a stout beam overhead where you change the rear wheel would it make it easy to get the wheel in & out if you lifted the rear end up with a winch or chain block, allowing the whole unit to pivot on the front wheel, far enough up to basically drop the rear wheel vertically.

I find it real handy to do that on my bikes when I put them on my scissor lift and I then want to lower the centre stand.

Cheers

Ed · 34 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:25 am

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darksiding there Waz.

AL-58 · 35 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:41 am

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Gaz80 wrote:
Having no experience at all with an outfit I'm completely unqualified to offer a suggestion but - if you have a stout beam overhead where you change the rear wheel would it make it easy to get the wheel in & out if you lifted the rear end up with a winch or chain block, allowing the whole unit to pivot on the front wheel, far enough up to basically drop the rear wheel vertically.

I find it real handy to do that on my bikes when I put them on my scissor lift and I then want to lower the centre stand.

Cheers

I don't have to do anything like that with mine. Just use a scissor jack or trolley jack the lift the rear (positioned on part of the sidecar subframe under the gearbox). I get a 165-15 tyre out the back of the bike (mudguard removed first) with no trouble at all.

Al

Ed · 36 Re: Transformed again Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:59 am

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once he gets his outrigger attached he should find things a lot easier.

Guest · 37 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:09 am

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Getting the rim out is no problem when you remove the rear guard which is only 4 screws....it's relocating it that can be a pain with the through bolts and no locating dowels so to speak.

Ed · 38 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:07 am

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what's the the new colour scheme to be on this one Waz?

Waz · 39 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:37 am

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Still undecided. Was going black but motor is black and it will be too much, was also thinking white just because fairing is already white and good so it would be easy.
Poor photo but this blue will proberly be it. I had this colour tinted from a winfeild blue packet years ago and I still like it, goes well with chrome or black.

Ed · 40 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:47 am

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those were the good ol days Waz.
I'm very partial to blue myself, I was thinking of painting my chair Navy blue to match my K.
should come up a treat when you are done.
come origin night you'll be able to choose any K.

what were the original BMW colours for the later models in the 90's.

Rick G · 41 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:19 pm

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I would not be at all concerned about it being out of centre from a handling point of view but would be concerned about the extra stress being put on the swinging arm because of it only being single sided.

Ed · 42 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:35 am

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groverK wrote:theres a possibilty I might be coming down your way during the school holidays, might try and fit in a visit, 5- 6 July.
most likely on Saturday 5th. with a morning session to swap sidecar bits.
I'll be heading through to Batemans Bay to meet up with the kids on school holidays. and returning on Sunday 6th.

Waz, are we still OK for a visit to your grand end of the East Coast next weekend. I'm keen to check out your new venture and offer you some extra chair bits.
can we bring anyone else along?

Waz · 43 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:48 am

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All welcome, here all week end.

rosskko · 44 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:15 pm

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Good scones down that way too Ed.

Which day?

Ed · 45 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:46 pm

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If Waz is up to it , my plans are to wander down with the trailer loaded with bits on Saturday morning and pass through Sydney at the usual time of around 7.00am.
be good to share the company of other K's along the way. Rossko, where can we suggest other sydney folk meet us?

Then I'll need to be on the road to Batemans Bay by 12noon so I can catch up with the family who have been on holidays for the week .
Is Saturday Ok Waz?

Waz · 46 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:06 pm

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Saturday is fine

Ed · 47 Re: Transformed again Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 pm

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sounds good

rosskko · 48 Re: Transformed again Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:33 am

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coming. Where we going to meet Ed?

few pm's sent to slackers floyd, basic2, noeloakes, ned?

Ed · 49 Re: Transformed again Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:20 am

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rosskko wrote:coming. Where we going to meet Ed?

few pm's sent to slackers floyd, basic2, noeloakes, ned?

come on guys , who's up for a run , some great hospitality at the Waz's.

Meet on the M7 west bound at the pull in bay between Winston Hills and Bella Vista , 7am Saturday.
same spot as before. just keep an eye out for a plow towed by a blue K.

Ed · 50 Re: Transformed again Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:47 pm

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See you tomorrow Waz.
Itinerary for the trip down.

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