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DeRodster

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Hi All,

 Just at the cleanup stage and am thinking around the various exhaust parts to allow re-install on my K.

 I have new studs and nuts and copper washers.
I don't recall seeing any copper washer come out when I removed exhaust all those months ago, so I guess they are still stuck in the ports. Can i just jack 'em out with a flathead or should I be more cautious

Then decided to clean the exhaust and silencer with metal polish ...didn't seem to be getting too far with that idea, so moved to fine wet n dry. Worked a treat, and all those years of grot n grime are slowly coming off and showing a gleaming stainless surface. I'm still amazed at all the little blobs of road tar !!

Just at the finishing stages of rebuild and hope to be back on tarmac soon

adios
Rod


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1992 K1100LT 6455194
1943 BSA WM20
1979 Yamaha DT-175
1974 Triumph 3TA / 5TA
1974 Honda 100
1969 Honda 50
    

2Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:21 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Rod

Get new rubber mounts for it, don't reuse them.

I always use wet and dry on the headers, works better than anything.

Wish we could get you over to K Fest.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

3Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:18 am

Rick G

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Where the 3 front pipes run fairly parallel put a jubilee clamp around them to stop the vibration induced cracking. Tighten up all the studs a bit at a time, nice and evenly and before you start to get to the stage of crushing the copper washers put the rear mount in position and make all those bolts firm. That way you are keeping the whole system in its natural position.


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4Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:00 am

DeRodster

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thanks for replies lads,
 Yes, you might yet Olaf, about 150 days to go and I'll be free to do what I like ( Other 'alf permitting ;-))
Good point re new rubber mounts...hadn't thought of that in particular and I have been thinking of a new rubber gasket for rear drive unit...

On mine it's 4 pipes RickG, and they are all welded in place so no probs there. I'll have a grovel about under it later and see if I can spot any old copper rings in the ports.

Just taking my time and hopefully ensuring all is correct and in the right place, so far so good

R


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1992 K1100LT 6455194
1943 BSA WM20
1979 Yamaha DT-175
1974 Triumph 3TA / 5TA
1974 Honda 100
1969 Honda 50
    

5Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:30 am

duck

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The old copper gaskets never fall out in my experience.  I suspect because their diameter increases ever so slightly when they are initially "crushed" upon installation.

I've never bothered to replace them.


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86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
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6Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:31 pm

Point-Seven-five

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+1 on what the Duck said.  I have never replaced those gaskets on any of my bikes and never had a leak there.

I used 2500 wet or dry on my header pipes, made them look nicely polished with minimum expenditures of time and effort. 

Looked the treat...for about 30 miles.


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Present: 1991 K100RS "Moby Brick Too"
 
Past:
1994 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
1988 K100RS SE "Special Ed"
1994 K75S "Cheetos"
1992 K100RS "Moby Brick" R.I.P.
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

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DeRodster

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Ok on all that
Am putting 8 new studs in
Plan to use a little thread lock, though I can't imagine they'll fall out. Time will tell i guess


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1992 K1100LT 6455194
1943 BSA WM20
1979 Yamaha DT-175
1974 Triumph 3TA / 5TA
1974 Honda 100
1969 Honda 50
    

8Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I didn't use threadlock...used copper paste not that tis worth a lot in there.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

9Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pm

DeRodster

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Oh indeed, i love that copper grease....it goes on everything, except my toast....i reserve that for Kerrygold  ;-)

And i forgot to mention an obvious plus , or at least something that will ease input...the new studs take a hex drive and the new nuts are copper. I'm looking at the old ones, all rusted and nasty,  and thanking a higher being that i got them all out intact & without tooo much trouble


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1992 K1100LT 6455194
1943 BSA WM20
1979 Yamaha DT-175
1974 Triumph 3TA / 5TA
1974 Honda 100
1969 Honda 50
    

10Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:49 pm

Point-Seven-five

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I used stainless studs and nuts with copious amounts of copper anti-seize.  No problem removing them.


Speaking of copper.  Check the "copper" nuts.  The ones I bought from Max BMW were made of some mysterious magnetic copper that quickly rusted.


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Present: 1991 K100RS "Moby Brick Too"
 
Past:
1994 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
1988 K100RS SE "Special Ed"
1994 K75S "Cheetos"
1992 K100RS "Moby Brick" R.I.P.
1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
1974 Honda XL125
1972 OSSA Pioneer 250
1968 Kawasaki 175
    

11Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:11 pm

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DeRodster, the copper rings in the K1100rs were invisible to me due to soot. I got a cheap dentists type tool in the € shop and picked them out....turned out there were two sets in there. if you are buying studs make sure they are the right length (They're not the same as 8v ones).

Looking forward to seeing you "out and about".
W.


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K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

12Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:36 am

DeRodster

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Copper nuts my eye, unless the laws of physics have changed !

K1100 exhaust re-install Copper10

Onwards and upwards, the quest continues ;-)


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1992 K1100LT 6455194
1943 BSA WM20
1979 Yamaha DT-175
1974 Triumph 3TA / 5TA
1974 Honda 100
1969 Honda 50
    

13Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:05 am

Dai

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Of course the laws of physics have changed. This is Ireland after all! Shocked


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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14Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:45 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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DeRodster wrote:Copper nuts my eye, unless the laws of physics have changed !

K1100 exhaust re-install Copper10

Onwards and upwards, the quest continues ;-)

Superglue.....



Can you imagine the fun I had one day when I bought a stainless steel saucepan clearly marked suitable for induction hobs then when I took it home it wouldn't work. Someone in the shop when I brought it back could not understand how it couldn't work....'its a saucepan, you put on the cooker, there is nothing in it to work' was all they kept saying. She certainly had an antimagnetic personality.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

15Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:47 pm

Laitch

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Point-Seven-five wrote: Check the "copper" nuts.  The ones I bought from Max BMW were made of some mysterious magnetic copper that quickly rusted.
DeRodster wrote:Copper nuts my eye, unless the laws of physics have changed !
More tragic victims of shiny things.
They aren't sold as "copper nuts" on the MAX site. They might be a new BMW hue–Kardashian Bronze. Laughing


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16Back to top Go down   K1100 exhaust re-install Empty Re: K1100 exhaust re-install Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:20 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I have bought a few sets of these nuts and studs......'copper' is only a coating. Like brass door furniture.....'brass' is often 'brassed' as in coated steel. Always bring a magnet.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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