1 Starter will not turn over Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:05 am
Packo
Silver member
83 K100
I have an 83 model which has not been started for 14 years
When I push the start button the Starter relay clicks most of the time and nothing else happens but occasionally the starter engages for about 1 second
Been working through Bert's troubleshooting guide :
Battery voltage 12.33 volts
Ignition is ON and instrument lights work as expected
Green neutral light in ON
Lower terminal on Starter relay 12.33 volts
STARTER BUTTON PUSHED
Relay clicks
Upper terminal nil volts
Continuity from starter button pin 86 of starter relay, black /green wire 10.04 volts
Continuity from starter button pin 85, red/brown wire 10.04 volts
This is each time the button is pushed
Sometimes the starter engages but for no more than 1 second and then just stops, when this happens the voltage at the upper
terminal is about 6 volts and at the starter terminal the same (was 6.58v when I last measured it)
I have tried 3 starter relays and they all perform the same way. I took the cover off 2 of them and bench tested them and they were ok and performed as they should.
Tried another starter motor and this one engaged each time the button was pressed but only for 1 second or so each time before disengaging, bench tested and was fine
I then tried another starter with new brushes and this one was exactly the same as the original with intermittent engagement and only for about 1 second
All earths have been cleaned and coated with de-oxit, including the starter motor mounts
Continuity from starter button to pin #6 on Ignition module - ok
In desperation I tried another computer but no difference
The headlight will go off when the starter is pushed and the starter engages but not when the relay just clicks
Dismantled and cleaned the starter button
The fuel pump works ok and pressurises the fuel line and cuts off 1.5 seconds after release of the start button - I have now pulled fuse #6
I thought the voltage from the battery may be an issue but the results were just the same when hooked up to the car
Once yesterday the starter did spin over for about 10 seconds until I released the button but this was a one off and I have not been able to replicate it
I am leaning towards faulty Starter relay but surely 3 of them cannot be broken
The rest of Bert's trouble shooting is for when the engine is cranking
Anyone got any further suggestions before I get a new starter relay and try it???
I have an 83 model which has not been started for 14 years
When I push the start button the Starter relay clicks most of the time and nothing else happens but occasionally the starter engages for about 1 second
Been working through Bert's troubleshooting guide :
Battery voltage 12.33 volts
Ignition is ON and instrument lights work as expected
Green neutral light in ON
Lower terminal on Starter relay 12.33 volts
STARTER BUTTON PUSHED
Relay clicks
Upper terminal nil volts
Continuity from starter button pin 86 of starter relay, black /green wire 10.04 volts
Continuity from starter button pin 85, red/brown wire 10.04 volts
This is each time the button is pushed
Sometimes the starter engages but for no more than 1 second and then just stops, when this happens the voltage at the upper
terminal is about 6 volts and at the starter terminal the same (was 6.58v when I last measured it)
I have tried 3 starter relays and they all perform the same way. I took the cover off 2 of them and bench tested them and they were ok and performed as they should.
Tried another starter motor and this one engaged each time the button was pressed but only for 1 second or so each time before disengaging, bench tested and was fine
I then tried another starter with new brushes and this one was exactly the same as the original with intermittent engagement and only for about 1 second
All earths have been cleaned and coated with de-oxit, including the starter motor mounts
Continuity from starter button to pin #6 on Ignition module - ok
In desperation I tried another computer but no difference
The headlight will go off when the starter is pushed and the starter engages but not when the relay just clicks
Dismantled and cleaned the starter button
The fuel pump works ok and pressurises the fuel line and cuts off 1.5 seconds after release of the start button - I have now pulled fuse #6
I thought the voltage from the battery may be an issue but the results were just the same when hooked up to the car
Once yesterday the starter did spin over for about 10 seconds until I released the button but this was a one off and I have not been able to replicate it
I am leaning towards faulty Starter relay but surely 3 of them cannot be broken
The rest of Bert's trouble shooting is for when the engine is cranking
Anyone got any further suggestions before I get a new starter relay and try it???
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