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1Back to top Go down   New Injectors but still some issues Empty New Injectors but still some issues Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:51 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I came across these today......brand new injectors for £27.50 each. They come with the seals on.

I now have an email confirming my order for 4 of them has been despatched.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371973165962?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I have a nice new injector rail for them on my shelf.

I will post up comments after they are fitted, probably next weekend.



Last edited by 92KK 84WW Olaf on Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:11 am; edited 1 time in total


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Ok so I will have these during next week and figure fitting them some evening.

I have a nice injector rail ready to go in, my fuel hoses are renewed since I got the K and in good order, have a spare set of seals bought in anticipation of getting the ones in the bike cleaned. Have spare clips too so I don't see much to go wrong.

Not done injectors before but doesn't look difficult.

This is what I think I am looking at....

Bottom left fairing panel off as always
Clean off the top of the engine to avoid dirt getting in...
Off with fuel hoses [tank off for me, prefer no fuel around]
Disconnect injector plugs.
Unbolt injector rail [WD40 on the 2 bolts today and during the week].

New injector rail and injectors already set in the rail?
Line it up and bolt it on, let the bolting up push the injectors into the head or push it all in first?.
Reconnect wiring plugs.
Refit tank and reconnect hoses.
Check all is running ok.
Refit fairing lower panel.

Am I missing anything? I do have Clymers and read it but nothing like checking out in the real world where we have 30 year old bikes rather than a manual made up working on a more or less brand new bike.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

Dai

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Experience says clip the injectors into the rail first. It makes life a lot easier. I also smeared some silicon grease (brake grease - now there's an oxymoron!) around the seals which helped a lot.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Dai

Thanks for that. I had the idea on the injectors in the rail first but the brake grease tip is good for me. I do have a bad running problem and know that at least of the injectors [no 4] is leaking and looking to be the culprit so this is needed anyway.

Funny how your name came up on this.

Right now am making Christmas puddings.....! Yep they mature nicely and this is the first lot for this year. They are to be ready for a 'courier' delivery at the end of June.

Will make yours a bit later.......

Will we see you around 2 July for Bills visit?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

88

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Bony buy brake grease if you have s can of silicone spray around that'll do it nicely.


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New Injectors but still some issues Ir-log1188....May contain nuts!New Injectors but still some issues Ir-log11

"The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page." - St. Augustine from 1600 years ago & still true!

K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Have brake grease....but maybe KY jelly works too?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

Dai

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:Will we see you around 2 July for Bills visit?
I'll do my best for that one.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Injectors produced a noticeable improvement in smoothness and pick up.
Replaced temperature sensor with a brand new one last weekend and now very much better.
While in there checked out air filter as I had the air box off and so on and all looks good.

But one problem remains. I still have a high fuel consumption as in about 50% excess and a diesel knock to go with it.

Where to next? K is 84 one with the fuel pressure sensor on the back of the throttle bodies rail.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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Hey Olaf!

Have you Synchronize synced the bike?
When was the last time you checked the Valves?
Could there be a Temp sensor damage?
Choke hanging?

Have luck 
Cheers


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92KK 84WW Olaf

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1 2 and 4 are good.

3 next.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

11Back to top Go down   New Injectors but still some issues Empty Re: New Injectors but still some issues Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:04 am

Laitch

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:
But one problem remains. I still have a high fuel consumption as in about 50% excess and a diesel knock to go with it.
How long has that been going on, Olaf? Maybe you should check compression down the line when you're finished with setting the clearances. The knock is unsettling.


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12Back to top Go down   New Injectors but still some issues Empty Re: New Injectors but still some issues Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:09 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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It is but definitely sounds diesel like. Been through a lot of engines and its exactly the same as the car sounded with a bad injector. Plus my fuelling is not right [I did also swap ICU FICU too as I had spares].

I think valve clearance look see next weekend.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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Checked fuel pressure?


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14Back to top Go down   New Injectors but still some issues Empty Re: New Injectors but still some issues Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:42 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Inge K. wrote:Checked fuel pressure?

Inge I haven't checked fuel pressure. But its on my mind as a possible cause. Temperature sensor definitely wasn't right so I am happy to have replaced it and the difference is noticeable.

My K has the early fuel pressure sensor on the back of the throttle bodies, debating on the sensor [have a spare] or the fuel pressure regulator as its definitely getting too much fuel which sort of leads me to think its not valve clearances. Cleaning up with new injectors, fuel sensor, balancing throttle bodies made a huge difference to smooth running.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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