That's a big old sidecar!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-BMW-K-100-RS-SIDE-CAR-OUTFIT-DAMAGED-SPARES-OR-REPAIR-NO-RESERVE-9954-/351921311527?hash=item51f0250f27:g:LWgAAOSwcUBYPuLZ

Watsonian adult-child. PAUL!!!!!!

I've got a campervan smaller than that.  

Ssssssush ! Don't anyone talk the price up, there's some bits there that I could do with!!

Sorry, I thought I was the only one who'd seen it.
Good luck.

Motorbike Mike wrote:That's a big old sidecar!

It looks like it should be hauling the bike, not the other way 'round. At least there is a fire extinguisher handy, probably ready for deployment during hill climbs. 

This is a "smoking" deal!
Yes Kando, There is a lot of bits that you can use.

Yes Dai, it looks like a Watsonian Maxstoke. (BTW, met up with Aitch again, camping in Derbyshire a couple of weeks ago.) 

Good luck Kando, worth it for the Wasp forks and sub-frame! I'll keep my fingers crossed 

Paul.

sidecar paul wrote:(BTW, met up with Aitch Adge again, camping in Derbyshire a couple of weeks ago.)
Paul.

There we go. Biggin Dale. Used to live not far down the road in Ashbourne when it was still a large village rather than a huge town.

Did he tell you we just spent three weeks bimbling around the Himalayas?

Yup, he did that Dai.

Just realised that the outfit has also got Wasp 15" wheels as well.......now it's an even better buy! 

Paul.

sidecar paul wrote:

Just realised that the outfit has also got Wasp 15" wheels as well.......now it's an even better buy! 

Paul.

 ...........and those smaller wheels Paul, were the first things that I spotted, unless the owner had fitted oversized brake discs !! I have a sneaking suspicion that this old tub will fetch quite a more than I'm willing to take a punt on, especially now that I've bought a load of materials and stuff to make all my own bits. Well, except for the wheels.

 trevor

Well, Trevor, to put it into perspective, I paid Wasps £1100 for my forks, sub-frame and wheels 29 years ago! so the current bid doesn't seem a lot considering all the other bits that are included, but I suppose there's a load of hassle selling off all the bits that are not needed. 

Anyway somebody will get a good buy.

Paul.

Back in '86 £1100 was a fair bit of dosh  but in today's Brave New Brexit Britain that money won't even buy you the forks which are about £1500 with Bilsteins  and some fancy wheels and the subframe will come to not much less. Although I'm reasonably well off (for a pensioner) I could not realistically justify spending that sort of money on a 30 year old K when as I'm over 72 now I'd be a quite very extremely lucky man to get 30 (or even 29!) years riding out of them, even though I don't plan to give up any time soon.

 Ye Gods! I can imagine the road and 'elf'n'safety brigades all  jumping up and down in horror - - - -SHOCK NEWS - - -100 year old man roaring around on a dangerous 75 hp motorcycle and sidecar contraption - - - by then probably the only thing anyone with a pension can drive will be a bubble wrapped elastic band driven 2mph buggy

 Anyways, I'm still watching!

    Trevor

Well, Ajays is well in his 80's and not longtime ago he was thinking of buying another bike.

Here is another leading fork for sale on Ebay UK:
Leading fork 0 bids and starting at £459.00

How do you compensate for the speedometer reading off a smaller wheel, giving a higher speed on the clock?  

Adjust the speedo with the Karamba software.
I also installed a Sigma electronic bicycle speedo. The speed is dead on with the GPS.

Thanks for that, I was just wondering.

I just adjusted the potentiometer inside the speedo by trial and error to get it to read the same as my GPS device. Generally, with 15" wheels, about 15° anti-clockwise gives a good result.


It's that 'skeleton' pot above the small gear in the pic.

Paul.

PS I did the same for my standard solo K to get the speedo to read accurately.

Thanks Paul.
The Karamba software is available from the download page. 

Nice move Bert! 

Paul.

sidecar paul wrote:I just adjusted the potentiometer inside the speedo by trial and error to get it to read the same as my GPS device. Generally, with 15" wheels, about 15° anti-clockwise gives a good result.


It's that 'skeleton' pot above the small gear in the pic.

Paul.

PS I did the same for my standard solo K to get the speedo to read accurately.

Brilliant. Now I can buy that outfit with confidence-lookout other bidders!

Crazy Frog wrote:Well, Ajays is well in his 80's and not longtime ago he was thinking of buying another bike.

Here is another leading fork for sale on Ebay UK:
Leading fork 0 bids and starting at £459.00

I did think about these when they first came up but I didn't have £459 spare. They've gone now - unsold, so my guess is they went as a private sale for considerably more than that. I also hear a rumour that it's possible that Hedingham forks may become available again in the near future. Not confirmed though as the current owner is quite sick.

Boo-hoo   Good-bye wheels Good-bye forks ! It's back to the workshop and make all my own bits again, well what on earth else would I do with my time


  Seriously Mike , I wish you the best of luck and I do hope that you win this old rig, at least it'll stay in the (K) family, and it'll give you a nice winter project to get stuck into - - just looks like a bit of rewiring from an electrical fire to sort and a bit of tarting up and it'll be a go-er.

That old chariot will make a nice chicken shed too!

 Now where's my welding gear??

 Trevor

My eBay page shows that this item is no longer available so it looks like someone whizzed around to Surrey Motorcycle Salvage and dumped a wad of readies on the table !

          Anyone here?

    Trevor

Kando wrote:My eBay page shows that this item is no longer available so it looks like someone whizzed around to Surrey Motorcycle Salvage and dumped a wad of readies on the table !

          Anyone here?

    Trevor

Not me!

I noticed that the listing had ended early "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing."

Read into that what you like - wad of cash on desk and avoidance of eBay fees or a genuine mistake? Or perhaps the seller read the comments on here and realised that they could possibly get far more dosh breaking it and selling off the sought after bits? I can't remember how much longer it had to run, but the price was still less than £500 when I looked yesterday, so maybe the seller thought his "no reserve" strategy was about to back fire on him and it was going to go for a song unless he pulled it first? Who knows what goes on inside the evil twisted mind of some ebayers?

I was keeping an eye on it (just out of interest) - At that price, I would have taken a punt, possibly, but respected Kando's first dibs and didn't want to go into a bidding war against a K100 forum brother!

I see that it's just come back again, I've read through the listing and the only thing that I can see to be different is the original post quoted mainland delivery for £120 ( a good price for a big old combo!) this new one doesn't.

 Trevor

I originally found the leading forks advertised on a Facebook sidecar group and posted the link on this forum. It was well advertised all over the world. No wonder that somebody made a private offer.
Now you have 9 days to put your bids for the complete burned sidecar.  
Even a high bid could be worth the money (subframe, wheels, forks are something difficult to find)

Well, it finally went for £1,910 so someone wanted it badly!

Paul.

I hope the new owner fits the front caliper mounts properly!

Not me , my bid was nowhere near that much! Anyone here?

It certainly looks like an expensive, arduous project.

But imagine how good it *could* look, if done 'right'!

It'd be nice to have the 'rebuild thread', on here

Are some of us out of touch with the value of such things?
I expected sub 1k. Does anyone else care to own up to an expected and honest final value?
I know little about the value of outfits and didn't expect it to make much more than £1000.

A thing of that size could be turned into a good camping outfit for our longed for summer tour around Eire, my wife and I could sleep in that sidecaravan it looks long enough for us pint-sized folk!

 Today, just a new subframe and forks won't give you much(if any) change out of £2K Mike, and those Wasp 15" wheels are like Rocking Horse poo being no longer made and a similar bespoke pair will cost around £800, so the winning bid was not excessive.
My tops was £1100 because I'd need to add the hire costs of a truck and fuel for a 350 mile round trip, probably £350.

 A bit more effort would be required than your 'sympathetic wash and brush up' though !

Just watch on Ebay for the price of the chairs alone.... You can expect to pay an average of $4 to $5k (in N.A.) just for a chair in decent shape. If you add all the mods + the bike, leading forks, a sidecar easily cost over $10K. This is not a cheap bike, but so much fun to ride. I am at the point of thinking selling my 2 solo bikes.
I don't need the money, but I haven't used the solo bikes for 2 years. I will see in the spring.
Did I said that you get hooked on sidecars?