151 Re: Fuel pump testing Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:12 pm
Rick G
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Check the connection bolt where it goes through the case if it is not aligned correctly it can short direct to the outer case and FIZZ SPLAT.
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Check the the BMW part number against this and you'd see it's not the correct regulator for a K100. Voltage rating is not the same anyway and the design looks different to me.FissionMailed wrote:Is this the correct part # for the brushes? http://ecatalog.wilsonautoelectric.com/index.php/62-15-6635.html
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1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
FissionMailed wrote:The battery is getting killed very quickly. Not sure why. I am charging it as I am testing, though. It was at 12.7, and the starter was turning very slowly, so I'm letting it charge now.
Voltage is good, though there is about a .1V draw with ignition on. Headlight, maybe?
Starter seems to turn fine. Fuel pump cuts on as normal. Will test spark in a few, after the battery charges.. The plugs are wet- a bit of oil on them (sitting on the side stand for months), so I can't be for sure if it's gas, but I'll try again later today.
I forgot to mention- while taking apart things, I accidentally cracked the little plastic washer under the starter positive wire. I figured it was just a generic insulator and replaced it with a thick rubber washer I had handy. Can this cause any problems?
Plastic washer is to insulate the bolt carrying the starter current (12V) from the body of the starter motor (earth potential). Can't remember the K specifics, but either from inside the starter body, or outside or both, there is a sleeve that insulates the shaft of the bolt from the hole it passes through. Sometimes separate, sometimes part of the flat plastic washer.FissionMailed wrote:Sorry.
Drop, not draw.
The charger is not attached.
I will go out and purchase a solid plastic washer-and by the way, how is the nut/lead/black plastic washer oriented on a stock bike?
Thanks for the patience.
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
The brush set I bought a month or so ago came with new plasitc washers etc with the brush (#11+#13)Kaptain Holister wrote:Its possible that the plastic washer is part of the brush set (#11 in the diagram).
Someone might have an old set that they could donate the washer to you if you can't pick one up.
A small battery will not hide any problems. Not only can it cause electrical problems but it will not be able cope with problems caused by other electrical components.FissionMailed wrote:Any idea why the relay keeps fusing together? I guess it's just too far gone, but clearly the high draw problem hasn't been solved. What kinds of problems can a too-small battery potentially hide?
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
Definitely not cranking excessively, only in short bursts.Kaptain Holister wrote:A small battery will not hide any problems. Not only can it cause electrical problems but it will not be able cope with problems caused by other electrical components.
The starter relay contacts fusing could be caused by excessive cranking. Bad battery. Worn starter brushes. Bad relay
Are the SPs sparking? are they wet or dry? You said you were going to check but I can't see that you've done that.
Is your load shed relay is working properly? This could cause additional drain on the battery while starting, reducing volts to the starter relay and starter.
Cranking the starter is a big drain on the battery so keep it to a minimum. About 5 seconds at a time with a rest in between. No point cranking over and over. If it doesn't start with a couple of cranks its not going to fire up and you'll just be stressing the battery AND the relay. Keep it charged up?
Have you checked/replaced the starter brushes? You have said you "took things apart" but we've not heard what condition they were in.
Not sure what that 1V drop was you mentioned. Where did you measure that and what was on at the time?
Maybe the starter relay is not capable any more. You could try cleaning the contacts with emmery paper but I think that you need to focus on why its not firing up.
Have you got spark? Do you have fuel pressure? Are the injectors firing? These are important questions to answer.
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
The FICU thing is new. So take the multimeter and measure resistance between pins 3/4, then pin 3/negative on battery, then pin 4/negative on battery, correct?Kaptain Holister wrote:
There was something funny happening when it was running ie not revving over 2k. Your TPS is dissconnected I presume so take the FICU connector off and check there is no continuity between pin #3 and #4 or between those pins and earth. There could be a short in the loom which is confusing the FICU.
While you are there, check you are getting 12V on pin #12 when ignition on and starter pressed. This is power to the injectors.
If its new to you... maybe you haven't been to the Troubleshooting Page. Would be worth reading that.FissionMailed wrote:The FICU thing is new. So take the multimeter and measure resistance between pins 3/4, then pin 3/negative on battery, then pin 4/negative on battery, correct?Kaptain Holister wrote:
There was something funny happening when it was running ie not revving over 2k. Your TPS is dissconnected I presume so take the FICU connector off and check there is no continuity between pin #3 and #4 or between those pins and earth. There could be a short in the loom which is confusing the FICU.
While you are there, check you are getting 12V on pin #12 when ignition on and starter pressed. This is power to the injectors.
The regulator is from EME
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
1989 K100RT VIN 0097367 (naked) 1996 K1100RS VIN 0451808 | Fuel: 95 Octane Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50 Gear Box Oil: Nulon Synthetic 75W90 |
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