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1Back to top Go down   headlight Empty headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:08 pm

smoll1

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Hi all

Am renovation k100rs and getting near end. Question does low beam come on without engine running? Hope someone can help :-):-)

    

2Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:38 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Low beam should work without engine running but only if lights are turned on.

All lights, indicators, brake lights etc should work when you have ignition switched on and the kill switch set to live but without engine running. When you press the starter button the load shed relay kicks in and disconnects them while the starter is turning, as soon as it fires they will come on again.

What is the status of your lights when the engine is not running?

Good luck with the renovations too, hope we might see you out soon....


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3Back to top Go down   headlight Empty low beam Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:53 pm

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When ignition on and kill switch on grt side light but no low beam and only high beam using pass switch bit confused by it :-(

    

4Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:58 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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When you have lights switched on at the right hand they should work. No lights then a problem in there, first off check your earths and the handlebar switchgear connectors under the tank.

The handlebar switch gear does sometimes give trouble but check other things first. If no headlight comes on does the rear light come on?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

5Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:18 pm

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Dual filament headlight?  And the low beam filament is blown? 

Replace headlight bulb, with access from the rear of the headlight unit.


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6Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:31 pm

smoll1

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no the rear light side light does not come on either but brake light works.

    

7Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:15 pm

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There are 2 distinct power feeds to the headlight First is the power to the right switch which is then switched to the left switch for high and low beam and the tail light. Second is power to the left switch to run the high beam flash.
Firstly check the fuses with a meter as they will sometimes seem OK but will be open circuit due to corrosion.
If you go to the portal you can get some wiring circuits for your model that are interactive and will show the relevant circuit highlited with the colours.  If you need a manual PM me and you will get a link to a very good one.


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8Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:27 pm

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Since neither the headlight or taillight does function the problem must be
in the RHS switch assy or it's connector...as the power feed to tail/headlight
is split on this side.

The switch assy connector you find under the tank (biggest connector RHS),
check that power is present at the green/blue wire (check on both sides of
the connector).....if power is present the problem is in the switch assy.


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9Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:59 am

smoll1

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Ok i will try to test these wires and will let you know how i get on thanks :-):-)

    

10Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:03 am

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11Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:38 pm

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Checked all wiring and all ok up to left hand switch, i shorted across terminals and low and high beam work fine so switch is dead. Will strip down as on forum and see what happens. Thanks for all advice is helped no end and light at end of the tunnel ;-) :-):-) will let all know how works out.

    

12Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:28 pm

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If it's anything like the last one I stripped and cleaned you may just find shite on the hi/lo contacts. The nice thing about these switches is that they really are easy to take to pieces and reassemble.


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13Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:31 pm

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smoll1 wrote:Checked all wiring and all ok up to left hand switch,

If you have power at the white/yellow wire up to the LHS switch, but no
tail light...it seems like you have two separate problems.

The headlight problem is then located to the LHS switch assy (quite common),
the tail light problem can be anywhere between the RHS switch assy and the
bulb itself.


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14Back to top Go down   headlight Empty headlight Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:35 pm

smoll1

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yes i thought might be separate issues i will have to check the wiring to the rear as well thanks for the tips Very Happy Very Happy

    

15Back to top Go down   headlight Empty sucess Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:03 pm

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Thanks for all the advice.

Thought i would give update. It was the left switch causing the issue and was full of crud. Stripped it down cleaned and now all works as it should.

The problem with the rear side light was a broken wire at the rear which was easily fixed so all working again, happy days  Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    

16Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:40 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Excellent result.

If you don't have a relay on the headlight give a thought to fitting one.......


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

17Back to top Go down   headlight Empty relay Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:28 pm

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I thought about a relay as i saw a post a while ago.

What type of relay would be needed and where would it go?  Very Happy Very Happy

    

18Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:17 pm

Two Wheels Better

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smoll1 wrote:I thought about a relay as i saw a post a while ago.
What type of relay would be needed and where would it go?  Very Happy Very Happy

Try this Eastern Beaver unfortunately oddly named, but quality product.


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19Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:43 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:unfortunately oddly named, but quality product.
It could be Eastern kangaroo or Eatern eagle, but a Canuck stays a Canuck wherever he live. Razz
headlight Canadi10


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20Back to top Go down   headlight Empty Re: headlight Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:50 pm

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Think I got the wrong beaver, mine got hairy..... 🐱 

I don't have a lightswitch on the right, my bike is from the USA, saves me some trouble.


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