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1Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:11 am

Mossy1200

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Went to the flying quarter mile event on a closed road track yesterday.
All was going well until rear tyre deflation at 310kph or 195mph.

Someone stole my hand grenade valve caps.
Valve pin forced away from axel caused deflation.

Feeling lucky it was the rear wheel and bike and I survived undamaged.

    

2Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:21 am

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Mossy1200 wrote:Went to the flying quarter mile event on a closed road track yesterday.
All was going well until rear tyre deflation at 310kph or 195mph.

Someone stole my hand grenade valve caps.
Valve pin forced away from axel caused deflation.

Feeling lucky it was the rear wheel and bike and I survived undamaged.
Dude . . . Man was so so lucky!

What were you riding?

    

3Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:29 am

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crikey ........!!

don't tell me you had one of those right angled valve adaptors fitted .......known to cause issues   ...by the "passionate tyre guy"

he tells me that there is infact an offset angular valve stem for such occasions

thank heavens you are ok ....

keep on riding !!!!


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bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
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4Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:33 am

Mossy1200

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I have a zx14r set up with drag maps etc. Average speed on the run was 304kph. Tyre has 1pound pressure in it cold. While hot had 7pounds.
Didn't feel very good.

Next time im down in garage ill see if I can get a photo of the tyre damage.
Lucky rim is ok.

This is an early photo of when I first got the bike.
It looks almost the same now but has performance mods.

Tyre deflation Zx14r10

    

5Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:40 am

Mossy1200

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charlie99 wrote:crikey ........!!

don't tell me you had one of those right angled valve adaptors fitted .......known to cause issues   ...by the "passionate tyre guy"

he tells me that there is infact an offset angular valve stem for such occasions

thank heavens you are ok ....

keep on riding !!!!
I had those valve stems when I bought a zx12r in 2007. They got replaced under warranty repair.
When you start getting a normal valve spinning fast enough the valve pin that you push to release air opens by itself.

centripetal force

    

6Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:12 am

charlie99

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still a scarey contemplation

good luck in the future !! Tyre deflation 112350


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

7Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:27 am

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The scrutineers should've picked that up. Glad to hear you survived.


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1989 K100RT     VIN  0097367 (naked)  
1996 K1100RS   VIN  0451808
 Tyre deflation Austra12    Fuel:  95 Octane
Engine Oil: Nulon Full Synthetic 15W50
Gear Box Oil:  Nulon Synthetic 75W90
    

8Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:02 pm

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Mossy, 
Have you seen the '15 Kwak Ninja H2?
 
Insanity of the best kind.


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9Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:18 pm

Crazy Frog

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Well check this one....
A French guy going a 333Kmh (207mph) on a bicycle and the valve stem didn't leak. Very Happy
This happen today.


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10Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:14 pm

Two Wheels Better

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Crazy Frog wrote
"Well check this one....
A French guy going a 333Kmh (207mph) on a bicycle and the valve stem didn't leak. Very Happy
This happen today."

Voilà un vélo rapide! Merde.


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11Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:01 pm

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Crazy Frog wrote:Well check this one....
A French guy going a 333Kmh (207mph) on a bicycle and the valve stem didn't leak. Very Happy
This happen today.

I'd recommend to him that he pin a playing card to the frame where the spokes will rake it. Sounds bad-ass (childhood memories).


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12Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:48 pm

Crazy Frog

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Kyle10 wrote:I'd recommend to him that he pin a playing card to the frame where the spokes will rake it. Sounds bad-ass (childhood memories).
This type of engine was popular all over the world. 
In fact we should patent something like that to clean the spoke wheels when riding.(Replace the cards with brushes)


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13Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:13 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:
Voilà un vélo rapide! Merde.

This was an upgrade from the English version but the valve stem was leaking... Tyre deflation 44271


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14Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:19 pm

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Crazy Frog wrote:Well check this one....
A French guy going a 333Kmh (207mph) on a bicycle and the valve stem didn't leak
Nice. But . . . where are his BMW Panniers ? And his fairing ???

He wouldn't last long on this forum Laughing

    

15Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:27 pm

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Be made wrote:
Crazy Frog wrote:Well check this one....
A French guy going a 333Kmh (207mph) on a bicycle and the valve stem didn't leak
Nice. But . . . where are his BMW Panniers ? And his fairing ???

He wouldn't last long on this forum Laughing
The first original design had the boosters concealed in the saddle bags, but the saddle bags passed the bike at a speed of 650kmh. No more to say about the stiffness of Z brackets.


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16Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:30 pm

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Crazy Frog wrote:The first original design had the boosters concealed in the saddle bags, but the saddle bags passed the bike at a speed of 650kmh. No more to say about the stiffness of Z brackets.
Dang . . . That's sick  Tyre deflation 44271

    

17Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:48 pm

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We've seen how the French do it, now this is the English having a go with gas propulsion...

Tyre deflation Bakedb10

It's possible he's a Manxman.


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18Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:58 pm

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I didn't think I would see that one back again.

But we now have ladies on the forum....those turbo Ks are supposed to be kept under wraps....


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1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
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19Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:35 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:We've seen how the French do it, now this is the English having a go with gas propulsion...

It's possible he's a Manxman.

I think this is an after burner.
Sorry, but Frenchies only use natural gas and you use beans generated gas.
We cannot compare apples and oranges.  Very Happy


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20Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:44 pm

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Crazy Frog wrote:
I think this is an after burner. Sorry, but Frenchies only use natural gas and you use beans generated gas. We cannot compare apples and oranges.  Very Happy
Yes, we accept that the French know the intricacies of how to cook, but with the English (at least in the recent past) it was simply put the pot on the boil or the pan on the fry.

With the Aussies, we had to wait 'til a few generations of Asians came to town before we worked out good cooking.
Rolling Eyes

Now about that rapid tyre deflation...bugger, that musta been a posterior cheek clencher.


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21Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:55 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:Now about that rapid tyre deflation...bugger, that musta been a posterior cheek clencher.
That might just be a little bit of an understatement

I remember years ago when I was lot madder than I am now I offered to take a friend of my partners for their maiden pillion on a motorcycle ride

Well . . .let's just say I forgot 2 things


  1. That he was on the back when I did this
  2. That there was (still is) a hoary great drop away in the road on the other side of a certain railway crossing


We were on a Kawasaki ZL1000 Eliminator when we hit the crossing @ around 200+ getting very definitely air bourne for probably about 4 seconds at least if not more, landing with a helluva thump as the shocks bottomed out. I rode on and pretended this was normal even though it gave me a heart stopping fright at the time.

When we got back my pillion had brown stuff running all down his leg and I had to hose down the seat on the bike . . .

I apologized profusely to the guy and told him I forgot about the dip, which was the truth. Then, when he had cleaned up we took off south for about 20k's at around the 200 mark, spun around and zapped home again

He stated, when he got back, that he would NEVER get on another Motorcycle again

He, to this day, never has :-(((

    

22Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:16 pm

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Good story, Be Made! He quite literally sh*t himself. What is it about pooh jokes that awakens the inherent little boy in us?! They're always good for a giggle.

The only pillion-off-the-back story I can think of is back in the mid-'70s I had to ride my elder brother to work under our dad's orders because his crappy old car had karked it. Normally he and I got on like cat and dog. He was always agro and too easy to thump me and my younger brothers. So I got him on the back of my Kawasaki and off we went down the road. At an intersection I told him to hang on as I gassed it, cut across traffic and up a slight incline into the next road, front wheel in the air for twenty feet. The silly bugger didn't want to hold onto me and all I saw was a pair of boots pass my ears as he went arse over tea kettle onto his back in the street. Of course he was embarrassed that he'd come off and he never said a word. Just climbed back on with a limp and I dropped him off a coupla miles further on at work.

He hasn't thumped me since.


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23Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Mon Nov 10, 2014 11:51 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwaJwaTyOB4

I think idd clench harder doing this.

    

24Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:25 am

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Two Wheels Better wrote:Good story, Be Made! He quite literally sh*t himself. What is it about pooh jokes  . . . .

he never said a word. . . .
He hasn't thumped me since.

  1. No story and no joke. That is what actually occurred . . .heh
  2. I bet he never said anything
  3. Glad he hasn't thumped you ever since


Nice

    

25Back to top Go down   Tyre deflation Empty Re: Tyre deflation Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:33 pm

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Mossy1200 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwaJwaTyOB4

I think I'd clench harder doing this.
Yep. Pretty impressive alright. That's gotta be the longest jump I have ever laid eyes on. Now . . If only I could ride my bike like he does his . . . . Laughing Laughing Laughing

    

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