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1Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:35 am

Ghost who rides

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This photo shows what appears to be the result of the upper crankcase impacted by a threaded rod.
Note marks at ends of both screwdrivers.
this is on upper surface just inboard of no.4 injector

Damage from factory? P1070210

I can't think how this could happen except at the factory. What do you think?


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2Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:41 am

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Send it back


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3Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:39 am

Rick G

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Probably fell of the top of the heap where it was stored after casting


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4Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:48 am

Ghost who rides

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Looks like a warranty claim to me, now where is that damn receipt?


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5Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:51 am

Erman

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Seriously, after 30 years, you think that may have happened at the factory?   lol!


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6Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:34 am

Ghost who rides

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NO wonder the drive splines are Knackered, the impact to cause this HAD to have had an effect on the splines.

Where is that receipt?


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7Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:38 am

Ghost who rides

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This engine is probably the only one in the whole wide world just like this. Hmmmm one of!


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8Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:42 am

Two Wheels Better

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On a BMW, any loose nut between the seat and the handlebars is cause for a warranty claim!
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RT

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I actually think that is a fossil, your bike is so old and spent a million years on the sea bed.


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10Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:51 am

Ghost who rides

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I like RT's explanation best, however new information has come to light.

The vacuum line from the Fuel pressure regulator, FPR, has a spiral wound covering,

it (the damage) is caused by this wire wrap. NO WAY this is abrasion, it is pressed in

to the alloy.

 It is a warranty claim because the fuel line is stuffed. After only 27 years!

 Where is that invoice?



Last edited by Ghost who rides on Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:57 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Changed fuel line to vacuum line, for accuracy)


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11Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:21 am

Rick G

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I agree with you 100% its not abrasion but more than likely electrolysis. Stainless steel and Aluminium are almost mortal enemies in the marine world and that is in a place that we all know is very difficult if not impossible to keep clean and that's when electrolysis sets in.


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Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


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12Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:54 am

Crazy Frog

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BMW is well aware of the problem and had issued a recall for all the K100 built during OktoberFest 1985 to 1988.
(bulletin service # 145983-02)
This can affect the integrity of the aerodynamic leading to the motorcycle not starting during cold nights.


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13Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:05 am

Ghost who rides

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Likely right Rick... but it's soooo clean like pressed into molten metal. I would expect some fluffy
powdery stuff with galvanic reaction? Hard to imagine a rubber hose with wire wound able to be squashed
 like that... so you are probably right.


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14Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:11 am

Ghost who rides

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I hope you are right CF, but I think I need Inge to confirm that... then I'll make a claim!


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15Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:29 am

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"The motorcycle design iss perfect in evry vay. It iss the rider who has problem."
-Actual statement by a factory technician concerning a customer's perceived issue with his bike.


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16Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:40 am

Rick G

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Ghost who rides wrote:I hope you are right CF, but I think I need Inge to confirm that... then I'll make a claim!
Want a receipt they're easy to make Very Happy


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"Man sacrifices his health in order to make money.
Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.
And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."   Dalai Lama


Bikes 1999 K1100 LT with a Big Block 1200
    

17Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:49 pm

K75cster

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I'm with you Ghosty, find that reseat and head to BMW Australia right now. It looks "horribly mangled" to quote the grinch.


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18Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:42 am

TacKler

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Nah, just pop on down to the local museum. Tell 'em you have found a previously undiscovered fossil and it is only 30K year old.


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19Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:51 am

rosskko

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I actually think that is from the factory.

Look closely.

The 'ribbing' is interrupted by the stamp on the case. The little box things type pattern kind of ornamental edgework to the main flange on the outer rim of the main block housing the shaft and associated paraphanalia.


I use the big words for Blakey..His rocks....Off..

Sleep well big guy.


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1986 K100RT VIN 0093801K100RT with summer fairing for a northern visitor

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K1100RS 0194321
    

20Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:02 pm

Speedaddictedberk

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Looks like a casting fault, probably piping. Caused shrinkage during the cooling from molten stage.

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21Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Re: Damage from factory? Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:14 am

smithy

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Hey Ghosty, I don't think yours is a one off, here's two blocks one 35th week 1984, and the other an 85 block. defects are in exactly the same spot. Hmmm 

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22Back to top Go down   Damage from factory? Empty Damage from factory? Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:00 am

RT

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Better call Saul.


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