1 Short circuit in dash - 1989 K100RT Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:05 pm
jwetering
active member
I just bought a K100RT. I got it for a song because it has been blowing the #1 fuse. I figured it would be easy to find what was obviously a dead short - but it turns out it isn't so simple.
Fuse #1 powers:
rear brake switch
front brake switch
clutch switch
heated grips
optional accessories
optional gauges
the dash
I installed my ohm meter on the neutral side of the fuse block and had continuity with the frame. I then unplugged each connector in turn (there are no optional accessories or gauges) and the dead short remained until I unplugged the dash.
Only it didn't go away right away...it would come and go when I pulled on the harness going to the dash.
So I stripped off the insulating tape - all the way back to the relay box - but damned if I could not find any burned wire or cracked insulation. One things for sure though - once I stripped off the insulating tape to the Y where the main harness forks to the right and left the dead short disappeared and stayed gone.
So I replaced the suspect stretch of wire - and I re-soldered the green/blk wire node. In fact I split it into two wires with connectors on the end to aid in troubleshooting. Long story - difficult and pointless in describing it in detail.
Cut to the chase - the wiring is sorted - the harness taped back up. Nice job if I do say so myself and the dead short is gone. :cyclops:
THEN - I plugged the dash back in and wouldn't you know it the dead short is back . Unplug the dash and the short goes away. Plug it back in and the short returns. Unplug it and the short goes away. Huh.
Pull out the ohm meter again and sure enough I have continuity between pin #6 (power in) and pin #13 (ground).
It looks like I had two problems - one of which may have caused the other and one of which I think I fixed. I'm riding the bike now without gauges and so far so good.
So question one for you lads is whether this is something that happens a lot or if this is relatively rare. I think I know the answer because I can't find a lot written about it. I should point out that the bike came to me this way so I can not tell you what the dash was doing prior to the fault. I've never ridden this bike with a dash installed.
Question 2 is whether there is a good writeup anywhere for troubleshooting this dash. I have had it apart already - and I don't see anything obviously wrong. All of the writeups I've seen talk about moisture getting in and I don't even see any evidence of that.
So...suggestions?
thanks
jasper
Fuse #1 powers:
rear brake switch
front brake switch
clutch switch
heated grips
optional accessories
optional gauges
the dash
I installed my ohm meter on the neutral side of the fuse block and had continuity with the frame. I then unplugged each connector in turn (there are no optional accessories or gauges) and the dead short remained until I unplugged the dash.
Only it didn't go away right away...it would come and go when I pulled on the harness going to the dash.
So I stripped off the insulating tape - all the way back to the relay box - but damned if I could not find any burned wire or cracked insulation. One things for sure though - once I stripped off the insulating tape to the Y where the main harness forks to the right and left the dead short disappeared and stayed gone.
So I replaced the suspect stretch of wire - and I re-soldered the green/blk wire node. In fact I split it into two wires with connectors on the end to aid in troubleshooting. Long story - difficult and pointless in describing it in detail.
Cut to the chase - the wiring is sorted - the harness taped back up. Nice job if I do say so myself and the dead short is gone. :cyclops:
THEN - I plugged the dash back in and wouldn't you know it the dead short is back . Unplug the dash and the short goes away. Plug it back in and the short returns. Unplug it and the short goes away. Huh.
Pull out the ohm meter again and sure enough I have continuity between pin #6 (power in) and pin #13 (ground).
It looks like I had two problems - one of which may have caused the other and one of which I think I fixed. I'm riding the bike now without gauges and so far so good.
So question one for you lads is whether this is something that happens a lot or if this is relatively rare. I think I know the answer because I can't find a lot written about it. I should point out that the bike came to me this way so I can not tell you what the dash was doing prior to the fault. I've never ridden this bike with a dash installed.
Question 2 is whether there is a good writeup anywhere for troubleshooting this dash. I have had it apart already - and I don't see anything obviously wrong. All of the writeups I've seen talk about moisture getting in and I don't even see any evidence of that.
So...suggestions?
thanks
jasper