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150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:08 am
bohumil
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Hello from Czech Republic .... Maintenance of 150000 km ...
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5 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:17 am
bohumil
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and replace the chain, no other defects.
7 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:32 am
zonenfeile
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junk bikes - these K models
don´t even last for 150tsd Km
go to BMW and get rid of your anger
or go to Mrs Heilman, be patient and friendly and open your purse
don´t even last for 150tsd Km
go to BMW and get rid of your anger
or go to Mrs Heilman, be patient and friendly and open your purse
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8 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:37 pm
walfish
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Yeah! at 150k's I would only expect to check if the packing grease on the chain had worn off.
Some good pics though
Some good pics though
11 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:49 pm
charlie99
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great pics bohumil
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12 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:33 pm
Oldgoat
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+1charlie99 wrote:great pics bohumil
Thanks for sharing.
OG
14 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:06 pm
mototomo
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great pics man, how old is the bike?bohumil wrote:sorry to improve....
15 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:58 pm
Crazy Frog
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Thanks for the pics.
It also nice to see you on the forum again.
CF
It also nice to see you on the forum again.
CF
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16 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:07 pm
col
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gee wiz only have another 100k kms before i have to worry
going by my calculations 30 years before i have to do that
gotta love these bikes
going by my calculations 30 years before i have to do that
gotta love these bikes
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17 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:46 pm
caferacer62
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Geez i've only got another 7000klms to go til 150000ks.
Great pics and info Bohumil.
But seriously what is the cam chain replacement interval? I hadn't even thought about it to be honest.
Great pics and info Bohumil.
But seriously what is the cam chain replacement interval? I hadn't even thought about it to be honest.
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18 Re: 150000 km... Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:56 pm
Rjtrucker
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Wouldn't a motor swap be easier ?
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19 Re: 150000 km... Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:13 am
club_c
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Rjtrucker wrote:Wouldn't a motor swap be easier ?
But what is the fun in that??
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20 Re: 150000 km... Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:03 am
zonenfeile
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Rjtrucker wrote:Wouldn't a motor swap be easier ?
no - because all shown details are have to be done with any K engine that should do his job for the next 10 years
that is standard maintenance work.
relativly cheap care if done on time
a lot of the K-drivers solve the probs with "to be ignored" until we get another "K´s poor running" thread
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21 Re: 150000 km... Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:03 am
bohumil
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parts are not in the Czech Republic next week will arrive from Germany .... The selling price of around 5000 CZK-263 usd ... At low speeds could be heard rattling noises ... I measure the new chain and compare the old with 150000 km. Sorry for the English, I use google translator ...
22 Re: 150000 km... Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:50 pm
RT
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Well done bohumil, Google works for us mate.
Thanks for the pictures
RT
Thanks for the pictures
RT
23 Re: 150000 km... Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:49 pm
K-BIKE
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Well done bohumil, good to see you on the forum again!
Regards,
K-BIKE
Regards,
K-BIKE
30 Re: 150000 km... Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:45 pm
sidecar paul
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Great detail bohumil, both my K's are in the 90k miles range so it's good to know what to expect when I look inside.
Paul.
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33 Re: 150000 km... Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:15 pm
Crazy Frog
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bohumil,
Related to your last picture: The new output seal should not be mounted flush like the old one. It should but left out about 1mm.
CF
Related to your last picture: The new output seal should not be mounted flush like the old one. It should but left out about 1mm.
CF
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34 Re: 150000 km... Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:22 pm
bohumil
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thanks,Crazy Frog. 
. one more problem...1 mm.... 
. one more problem...1 mm.... 
36 Re: 150000 km... Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:31 pm
Crazy Frog
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OMG!
This is not good news.
Time to remove the oil pan and check the output shaft bearings.
My feeling is that the outside cage of the bearing got loose and freely turned into the bearing carrier and chewing the aluminum. You may need a new engine block or at least the bottom part
When re installing the output shaft, it's a good practice to put a drop of Loctite on the outer race of the bearing.
I previously saw another engine where the bearing carrier was chewed up!
This is not good news.
Time to remove the oil pan and check the output shaft bearings.
My feeling is that the outside cage of the bearing got loose and freely turned into the bearing carrier and chewing the aluminum. You may need a new engine block or at least the bottom part
When re installing the output shaft, it's a good practice to put a drop of Loctite on the outer race of the bearing.
I previously saw another engine where the bearing carrier was chewed up!
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39 Re: 150000 km... Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:24 pm
Inge K.
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Crazy Frog wrote:bohumil,
Related to your last picture: The new output seal should not be mounted flush like the old one. It should but left out about 1mm.
CF
According to this document it`s 0,5 mm.
On the other hand the seal on the picture looks like a older type, newer type should have only one
rather big PTFE lip which should be shaped to lay axial on the shaft......but never had any of these
in my hand only seen drawings and not that good pictures.
Sorry about your bearing Bohumil, you could cross your fingers and hope that it`s only the bearing
(but I doubt it), time will show....good luck!
Inge K.
40 Re: 150000 km... Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:11 am
bohumil
Silver member
O.K.Crazy Frog wrote:bohumil,
Related to your last picture: The new output seal should not be mounted flush like the old one. It should but left out about 1mm.
CF
42 Re: 150000 km... Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:51 am
Inge K.
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Bohumil. The newer type of seal should protrude 0,5 mm above the surface, it`s not the distance between
the seal and bearing that should be measured.....look at the document I linked to above.
On the other hand, it`s looking like you have the older type of seal that should be mounted 0,4 mm
lower than the surface.
If your seal have a circular tension spring on rearside of the inner sealing lip, it`s the older type.
Inge K.
the seal and bearing that should be measured.....look at the document I linked to above.
On the other hand, it`s looking like you have the older type of seal that should be mounted 0,4 mm
lower than the surface.
If your seal have a circular tension spring on rearside of the inner sealing lip, it`s the older type.
Inge K.
45 Re: 150000 km... Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:31 pm
Rick G
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Not good but easy to fix, that is a very common bearing. It is used as a wheel bearing on many cars.
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46 Re: 150000 km... Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:25 am
Albyalbatross1
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Excellent Pics!! I wish I had checked my GEARBOX while she was all apart!!!
50 Re: 150000 km... Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:41 am
charlie99
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good find bohumil ......keep progressing ...it will be like new
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'86 k100 rs.. #######.. "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
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1989 K100rt #009637 "Black Betty" (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
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