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1Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Faultering after warming up Wed May 15, 2024 6:25 pm

davemadsen

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1987 K100RT.
The bike run flawlessly for maybe 2 minutes and then develops a very light miss that is most noticeable coming off idle. It is similar to an air leak although I have sprayed starting fluid around the boots and hoses with no change in engine speed.

The following have been checked:
Valve clearances
FPR (35 psi at the fuel rail)
Spark plugs (strong spark)
Spark plug wires
Temperature sensor resistance 

What other factors should I be assessing?

Dave


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2Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Wed May 15, 2024 9:12 pm

Dai

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Heresy coming your way Very Happy : balance the throttle bodies. It's possible you may have one opening slightly later than the others.


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3Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 12:26 am

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4Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 9:41 am

Two Wheels Better

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With the engine rpm at idle, remove the engine oil fill plug. Does the idle level drop and become rougher? The breather hose is likely not the culprit. Does it stay the same? Examine the hose for cracks.


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5Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 5:16 pm

davemadsen

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Idles fine WITH filler plug in place. Idle drops and is very rough when filler cap is REMOVED. What is this telling me?

Also, I want to mention the bike seems to idle smoothly at idle, it is when coming off idle the “missing” is most apparent (up to 1500-2000 rpm at which point it is present, just less detectable). Also, at speed, it seems I feel a slight miss or knock in my right grip which may or may not be related.
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6Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 5:26 pm

Two Wheels Better

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If the idle drops when the filler plug is removed then the engine breather hose is doing its job as intended. Continue your search for the actual cause. 

The engine's internals are pressurised. Any cracks in that breather hose, commonly referred to as a Z pipe, will give it away as faulty. I imagine Duck 'splained that in his post (link) above. I just read the link. It's a good piece for diagnostic of the hose & TB rubber vacuum caps.



Last edited by Two Wheels Better on Thu May 16, 2024 5:28 pm; edited 2 times in total


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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

7Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 5:27 pm

davemadsen

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Dai,
I checked the throttle bodies using Motion Pro’s SyncPro and the vacuum is about as close as possible given the old gal has original rings and valves and close to 200,000 miles. Also, my understanding is any slight variation between the throttle bodies disappears quickly above an idle - which is not the case.


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8Back to top Go down   Faultering after warming up Empty Re: Faultering after warming up Thu May 16, 2024 5:57 pm

davemadsen

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To (hopefully) assist in troubleshooting my issue, here is a photo of the plugs (1-4). Plugs are relatively new with about 100 miles on them: Faultering after warming up 240a2771-f69c-42a9-9a26-ac01802972a6

https://share.icloud.com/photos/08aQm1plRcaHLVJI3M_Kx_6lw


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