1 another K100 running rough - reverse intake flow? Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:23 pm
NickyNicky
active member
I'm working on an 86' K100, and I've been chasing my tail a bit trying to figure out a situation where the bike bogs out with throttle. At various stages it's also had trouble starting and idling smoothly at times.
It's been stripped down over the past year. The last time I ran well (although the clutch slipped a lot, so it was hard to tell) was before I disassembled the whole bike for a clutch job. I also painted the tank at that time. When I was separating the transmission from the engine, it actually tipped over off the stand, which in the back of my mind makes me question if I messed something up, perhaps if some oil got in the cylinders or something.
The bike stands as follows:
- "GP style" muffler
- air intake direct from plenum to AFM to filter
- new fuel filter
- new injectors
- new fuel lines
- new spark plugs
- new plug wires
- "new" used ignition control unit
- "new" used throttle bodies
- "new" used TPS
- "new" used hall sensor
Things I've tried/checked:
- no air leaks around TBs and plenum/s-tube
- throttle bodies are relatively synced
- TPS adjusted
- ignition timing adjusted (centered mark on hall sensor)
- played with the air bypass screw on the AFM (it went all the way in and the idle was still going up)
In adjusting the air bypass screw, something interesting Ive noticed is that the engine revs up and smooths out when I manually open the AFM a bit further. I'm guessing that this means that the AFM is not adjusted properly, but as mentioned the screw is all the way in. It also seems like I'm getting instances of reverse airflow back up to the AFM which will flutter the valve open and closed and likely mess with the mixture.
I'm leaning towards replacing the pump and regulator, but I don't want to just throw cash at this thing. I'm particularly concerned about the reverse air flow. Has anyone seen this before?
It's been stripped down over the past year. The last time I ran well (although the clutch slipped a lot, so it was hard to tell) was before I disassembled the whole bike for a clutch job. I also painted the tank at that time. When I was separating the transmission from the engine, it actually tipped over off the stand, which in the back of my mind makes me question if I messed something up, perhaps if some oil got in the cylinders or something.
The bike stands as follows:
- "GP style" muffler
- air intake direct from plenum to AFM to filter
- new fuel filter
- new injectors
- new fuel lines
- new spark plugs
- new plug wires
- "new" used ignition control unit
- "new" used throttle bodies
- "new" used TPS
- "new" used hall sensor
Things I've tried/checked:
- no air leaks around TBs and plenum/s-tube
- throttle bodies are relatively synced
- TPS adjusted
- ignition timing adjusted (centered mark on hall sensor)
- played with the air bypass screw on the AFM (it went all the way in and the idle was still going up)
In adjusting the air bypass screw, something interesting Ive noticed is that the engine revs up and smooths out when I manually open the AFM a bit further. I'm guessing that this means that the AFM is not adjusted properly, but as mentioned the screw is all the way in. It also seems like I'm getting instances of reverse airflow back up to the AFM which will flutter the valve open and closed and likely mess with the mixture.
I'm leaning towards replacing the pump and regulator, but I don't want to just throw cash at this thing. I'm particularly concerned about the reverse air flow. Has anyone seen this before?