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ffbikersa

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Thanks for answering, but IMO it can't be right - VIN number ought to have 17 characters, letters and digits, not just 7 - those standards were intdroduced at the beginning of 1980s, and for a bike made in 1993 it should be known 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number

https://www.autocheck.com/vehiclehistory/vin-basics

197007 for my bike, or 197771 for yours, would just be the last 6 digits in a full VIN no.

Like the modern BMW bikes have  here an example for R1200GS:

https://en.vindecoder.pl/WB10317A86ZR40964

    

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I have 5 K bikes from 1987 - 93, checking my documentation they all  have the short VIN number, apart from the Swiss K1100LT that has 6458537K1100LT .


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 ;BMW; K1 Black 1993 60K Km     ;BMW;  K1100RS Black 1996       ;BMW; K1 Blue 1990 25K Miles

 ;BMW; K1200RS Red
    

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ffbikersa

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Strange... I will visit the BMW dealership to inquire about this, maybe they could look it upon in computer

    

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VIN numbers were initially up to the manufacturer, but later became standardised, with internationally recognised patterns. 
For BMW bikes, 7 digits plus the model used to be the pattern, such as 1234567K100RT
The later standardised version starts with WB and has the 17 digit pattern.
I’m not sure when the change was made, but by 1993, as my two 1993 bikes have the later pattern, and without checking, I think the 1990 one has the older pattern. 

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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress
1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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ffbikersa

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Accxording to Wikipedia and other pages, 17-character standard (digits and letters) was introduced already in 1981. 7 digits plus the model pattern like 1234567K100RT can not be used on VIN-decoders requiring 17-digit ones. Somebody from flyingbirck.de Forum suggested to add three ziros in front, or WBA, WBS - to no avail, those sites don't recognise it

    

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It was introduced in 1981 in the USA. In Australia, for example it was 1989. You should be able to use your number anyway.


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11/1985 BMW K100RT (late model)  Vin. 0090567
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daveyson wrote:It was introduced in 1981 in the USA. . . ..
Also, it only applied to vehicles sold in the USA.


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indian036

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http://bimmer.work/ is one site that can be used, though the second section of results (options fitted) is no longer as accurate as it was before.

When using it:

  • there will be distracting advertising. Only fill in the VIN part, the captcha to detect robots and 'Submit'.
  • Use the leading 7 digits of the 1234567K100RT VIN type, or the trailing 7 digits of the WB1 type.
  • For that site, you don't use the whole VIN


If you look at the RealOEM parts catalog site ( https://www.realoem.com/ ), you also only use the 7 digits as above and it will show model details and production month before you enter the parts catalog section.

Bill


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1985 K100RT  VIN 0028991  My original Very Happy ROB the Red Old Bike   (Historic rego)
1985 K100RT  VIN 0029036  BOB the Blue Old Bike  (Historic rego)
1990 K100LT  VIN 0190452  Work in progress
1984 K100RT  VIN 0023022  Work needing lots of progress
1986 K100RT  VIN 0090542  Work needing lots and lots of progress
1993 K1100LT  VIN 0183046  Work in progress
1993 K75S  VIN 0213045  Tom the Triple (now on Historic rego too.)
    

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ffbikersa

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Laitch wrote:
daveyson wrote:It was introduced in 1981 in the USA. . . ..
Also, it only applied to vehicles sold in the USA.

"Fahrzeug-Identifizierungsnummer (FIN) (engl. vehicle identification number, VIN)" - according to German Wikipedia, used in Europe too since 1981., after European Union adopted the 76/114/EEC directive

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrzeug-Identifizierungsnummer#Europäische_FIN_ab_1981

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX%3A31976L0114

    

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daveyson

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Nah Nah nah

Depends what the law was in the country it was sold.

Switzerland, where your bike was sold,  is not in the EU.



Last edited by daveyson on Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:56 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Deleted Australian comment, added Swiss comment.)


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11Back to top Go down   Not sure Empty Re: Not sure Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:27 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I have some old Ks.

22575 must be entered as a 7 digit number 0022575
193214 must be entered as 0193514


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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