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1Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty K exhaust collector Fri 21 Mar 2014, 13:43

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(Not sure if this is the right section to post this in , if not admin please move it.)

We have developed a new exhaust collector designed to fit over the stock header pipes and enable the fitting of an aftermarket silencer on the K.
More details on the website: http://www.bskspeedworks.co.uk/k-collector.html

First batch is in production now and we are taking orders.

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2Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Fri 21 Mar 2014, 15:08

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I saw these on another forum somewhere and thought that it looks a very well made item. Not sure that I'd buy one though for a number of reasons; my 16v would require the headers to be cut from the existing silencer, not sure what silencer I would end up fitting to it and I think that it is a very expensive part for what it is.
Best of luck.

    

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Thanks for the info - way too pricey for what it is though !  Mad


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Well made but to be quite honest I would expect to pay only $150 AU tops for it.  A big production run would bring prices down quite a bit but who will do a run like that and risk having 3/4 of a bin of them in 10 years time.


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5Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Fri 21 Mar 2014, 18:32

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That's a brilliantly executed and well-made solution to a problem; there's a plethora of aftermarket exhaust cans that could be fit to a Brick but getting the headers to fit up to them is, for most, a pain. At today's rate £239* is AU$433 + postage, and US$394 + postage. You wanna play you gotta pay.


Any 8V K header set will work on a 16V. I've even heard from some here that they felt there was a difference in 'pull' using the 8V headers on a 16V.

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Yes, if wanted to fit these to a 16v, its cut the headers off or fit 8v headers, but if your stock exhaust is shot that wont be a big deal.
I considered supplying a silencer but with so many different types, im not going to be able to stock one for every taste, this way you can get whatever you fancy.
I can recommend Delkevic silencers in the UK for price and quality, no connection other than I have used them before.

Regarding the cost, I have spent a year or so trying to find a product that can do this job, there are no off the shelf collectors that I have found that go as small on the inlet as 28mm.Smallest ive found is 1 1/4", which means sleeves or adding diameter to the headers and I always wanted a product that could fit straight onto the stock headers, for ease of fitting for customers. I have asked tens of companies and individuals for prices on making a one off and the answer has always been over £300, more like £450-500 and the reason given is that they do not have the tooling and it is not easy to make.
So with the help of another company we developed this collector, there was an option for a simpler, cheaper collector but we decided the extra work to make a better one was worth it.

We are making small batches, 20 at a time, I am happy to offer a 10% discount if purchased with our rear-sets, and would also offer a similar discount for a bulk buy for overseas customers.

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7Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Sat 22 Mar 2014, 06:10

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Don't get me wrong, I am not criticising you for trying to make a living - we all have to eat. I can understand that with stuff like this it is not only the time and materials taken to make it, but the time taken to design too. What I am saying is that with my 23 year old bike, I don't want to spend large amounts on it, £300 for the RAM rear shock was the limit for me. 
Should I get in the situation where I need new front brake discs (£190) and a new exhaust at the same time then I would scrap the bike and sell the bits.

    

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There are different ways of looking at this sort of expenditure on an elderly bike.  I tend towards thinking that the bike is paid for and to all intents and purposes, it has ceased to depreciate in value.  That means that I can 'afford' to pay out for what might appear at first glance to be expensive components.  With a younger bike, that some might think is worth spending large sums of money on, I shudder when I think of the amount of money that is knocked off its value every month.

I do not suppose there is much profit in this collector, but there is a lot of value if it does the job you want done.


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I have a few other interesting hobbies, but none which are quite so all-encompassing and time-consuming, or which give me such joy, as my motorbikes.

I don't mind laying out a bit o' the hard-earned dosh for a quality piece that helps me feel content in the decision that I've chosen a satisfying way of life. For me it's so much more than dollars and cents (sense). It's passion.


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i've got to chime in on this one. i spent more than just a few hours making one for Rafael' s cafe bike a couple of years ago.
a lot of time went into it, and even more trying to get something a little different.


i tried 4 into 4,  4 into 2, and then the 4 intp 1.
i loved the 4 into 4, but it was alot to contend with.  very busy but so boss sounding.  


yes the collector is the major part.  i ended up scrapping the old muffler so i could adapt a reducer tothecollector base.  and because the base was oval or ovoid.. there was a bitof hammering to get it round enough to weld and a bunch of polishing to get the shine in.


the end result was good but not quite up to what i wanted.
i will say this one is better than my attempt although the pieces are not far from my next configuration.  yes it is pricey..


Its just what do you want to do with it.


i did try to keep the pipes"tuned" by leaving the internal  pipe extensions in at the original lengths.


that extra cone in the garage sure is lookin good to me again.......


oh by the way.. i want one.. 400 is still more than a pinch on the backside... Shocked 

    

11Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Tue 25 Mar 2014, 05:32

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Oldracer wrote:We have developed a new exhaust collector designed to fit over the stock header pipes and enable the fitting of an aftermarket silencer on the K.
Great idea, but doggonit, why not make some tuned header pipes to go with, giving people the option. I'd buy that, for sure.  Rolling Eyes


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12Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Tue 25 Mar 2014, 07:12

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The 8V's factory header pipes, as well as the K75's curvily bent pipes, are an attempt at equal length, which is a form of 'tuning'. The limiting factor for higher flow at higher rpm, might be their diametre, but not much else.


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13Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Tue 25 Mar 2014, 15:46

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Nice. Clean and professional, doubtless. 

But a local muffler shop will fabricate one for less than a third of the asking $400.00 USD (I did ask three shops in Vancouver).


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14Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Price reduced Wed 02 Apr 2014, 14:24

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We have managed to reduce the price on these a bit now £215

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15Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Wed 02 Apr 2014, 21:01

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I'd be very wary of asking a muffler shop to fabricate one of those.  I'd be surprised if they could make one that could be installed straight away.  More likely, you'd be hammering, bending, cursing and wondering if you'd thrown away your money.

    

16Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Wed 02 Apr 2014, 21:14

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Oldracer wrote:We have managed to reduce the price on these a bit now £215
Thanks very much for the effort on what is, quite likely, a very slim margin and even slimmer market for this fine piece. Let's hope our inherent stinginess doesn't dissuade you from fabbing up even more interesting performance bits for our beloved Ks. We are, collectively, the original inventors of copper wire.

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Cheers.


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17Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Thu 03 Apr 2014, 01:29

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+ 1 for ben

hope you sell a motza (aussie for heaps ) of those

looks great to me ...drool

oh well ! ,  when I win the lottery ......is on my wish list


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18Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Tue 17 Apr 2018, 18:29

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They're only £159 (US$227 or AU$292 at today's rate) plus postage to where ever you are, now. And they do look a sweet treat. VAT would be deducted for overseas sales so that makes 'em even better.


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19Back to top Go down   K exhaust collector Empty Re: K exhaust collector Wed 18 Apr 2018, 02:01

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I can't argue with that.

As said the 16v exhaust cracks anyway so a collector and an off the shelf exhaust is the way to go.

Years back when I had a Honda CB500-4 the 4 pipes rotted as they did. Expensive but I bought brand new ones and decided to preserve them.

However for every day use I also made up a 4-2 using the headers. I was lucky enough to be working on a very large scale project with lots of piped services. A certain sub contractor made me up a pair of manifolds in very thick walled copper pipe to make a 4-2 system. They worked brilliantly...got them on the bike and all fitted up then took them off and got them chromed. They lasted really well. But I hate to think what they would have cost off the shelf. The copper was an interesting call but it made huge sense and all it cost me was the cost of the chrome plating. I did all the set up and it took some measurement work to set them out.

I hit extremely lucky with the K1100 and found a brand new K1100 Remus for less than the cost of a collector and pipe. But anything like list price and the BSK collector would have been the way to go. Take off the K1100 exhaust if its good and sell it on.


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I have learnt from Ben that the price is the price regardless of your location. The 20% VAT is psdded. Still a reasonable price for the quality.


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