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1Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:54 pm

BooG

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My K75 has developed the habit of occasionally backfiring on decelaration in 3rd gear....am |I right in thinking its related to the TPS? If so, what's the cure?
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2Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:12 pm

Point-Seven-five

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Are you completely closing the throttle.  My k75 bikes both backfire if I don't close the throttle completely when coasting.  Both bikes have properly adjusted TPS and tight exhaust systems.


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1994 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
1988 K100RS SE "Special Ed"
1994 K75S "Cheetos"
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1982 Honda FT500
1979 Honda XR185
1977 Honda XL125
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3Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:46 pm

BooG

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Possibly....I'll keep an eye on that, to see if I am shutting down the throttle completely.
Thanks for the reply!

    

4Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:47 pm

BooG

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Wow....I just became a Gold Member....that's a little bit "Austin Powers", no?! Laughing

    

5Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:06 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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BooG wrote:Wow....I just became a Gold Member....that's a little bit "Austin Powers", no?! Laughing

No, its John Cleese. Austin Powers comes next........


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

6Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:11 pm

robmack

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K75 may backfire as a result of a maladjusted TPS. It may also backfire because there is an air leak in the exhaust system, usually within the first 50cm (20") of the exhaust. That means either copper gaskets in the exhaust ports are leaking or the joint between the headers and muffler is leaking. Check these areas.


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7Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:37 pm

MartinW

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Incorrect mixture setting can also contribute to backfiring.
Regards Martin.

    

8Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:07 pm

Woodie

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I found that I tended to backfire more after I turned 50....oh wait..that's thread drift.  Sorry


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9Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:30 pm

AL-58

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My wifes K75s always used to backfire more when the gasket between the headers and the muffler started to fail.


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10Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:04 pm

TacKler

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Woodie wrote:I found that I tended to backfire more after I turned 50....oh wait..that's thread drift.  Sorry

You're not the only one.  

My 75S has backfired for most of its life in similar circumstances.  The TPS appears fine and so does the mixture (Thanks Martin).  Quite possibly the exhaust to header gasket, as suggested but not going to pull the headers off just for that.  

I don't have a problem with it.  It sort of sounds kool, a bit like a hot cam  Rolling Eyes


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11Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:02 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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AL-58 wrote:My wifes K75s always used to backfire more when the gasket between the headers and the muffler started to fail.
roundel roundel roundel

I think CF needs to move this thread to the humour section.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

12Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:28 am

Holister

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Just my thoughts, but I think if you've got backfiring, its a sign of unburnt fuel. The TPS not functioning or leaks in the header/exhaust system will be just contributing to igniting that fuel in the exhaust system as it escapes.
Quite a few here have disconnected their TPS to give a smoother engine braking experience. Not heard too many complaining of backfiring in these cases.
I'm thinking that on top of checking you have a tight exhaust system and your TPS is functioning correctly, that you also try advancing the ignition timing a smidge but within limits.
Another cause for unburnt fuel could be tight exhaust valves. My Old Girl (K100naked) used to go off like a rifle when backing off in 3rd and 2nd and usually as I was trying to quietly approach home. Exhaust valves were very tight. Backfiring disappeared as soon as that was put right. Best to check your valves anyway to avoid valve damage if this is the case.


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13Back to top Go down   Backfire Empty Re: Backfire Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:47 pm

MartinW

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Easy way to check for exhaust leaks is to stick the hose from a vacuum cleaner one of the ones that you can reverse to blow, up the exhaust and loosely seal it with a rag. Then spray the exhaust joints with a mixture of detergent and water. If you see bubbles ( soap bubbles not Michael Jacksons Chimp) you have a leak. Alternatively you can use a compressor, you could probably even use one of those cheap $10.00 12v tyre pumps.
Regards Martin

    

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