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51Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:53 am

jbt


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Nothing is street legal in France. But we are latin people.
Actually they never were imported here; One guy managed to register one monotracer.
But today it's possible to register it as a veteran, which allows it to be street legal.

I thought that Peraves CZ was out of business?

    

52Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:41 pm

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53Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:31 pm

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Base price of €80,000 before taxes, or any options (or in Ireland VRT etc.)

Deposit €40,000 then wait 6months for delivery.

I think I'll pass.  K75 GS conversion - Page 2 1f60e

    

54Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:20 pm

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This means possibly one or two things: are we to understand you are either not patient, or you have not the required money?
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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

55Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:21 pm

Dai

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Wellll... the fact that he doesn't live that far from Murphy's Brewery might explain both. Murphy's, IMO, brew a stout that is far superior to Guinness.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

56Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:15 pm

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I was disappointed to learn you can only get an electric version if you want new. Not that I'm in the market for one, mind. The idea of a K12 Brick engine pushing that thing along, ala Bad Boy's, intrigues. Even better, a K1300S upgrade with 170+ horsies and 103 lb-ft of torquies, but with the K12/13R lower final drive.


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- Frank Zappa
1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

57Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Fri Aug 16, 2024 5:02 am

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A K1300S?
Get out of this topic, Satan!


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58Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Fri Aug 16, 2024 5:06 am

Two Wheels Better

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jbt wrote:A K1300S?
Get out of this topic, Satan!
It might only be a stronger fire in the belly of the Peraves beast.
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1977 R75/7-100, '93 K11/K12 Big Block, '93 K1100RS, '95 R100 Mystic, '96 K1100RS, 2 x '98 K1200RS, '06 K1200R & '09 K1300GT
    

59Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:25 pm

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Two Wheels Better wrote:I was disappointed to learn you can only get an electric version if you want new. Not that I'm in the market for one, mind. The idea of a K12 Brick engine pushing that thing along, ala Bad Boy's, intrigues. Even better, a K1300S upgrade with 170+ horsies and 103 lb-ft of torquies, but with the K12/13R lower final drive.
There were several reasons that lead to this fact:

1. BMW stopped producing the Flying Brick engine with the end of the K1200LT back in 2009. From then on, you could only get second-hand, used engines.

2. In 2009, Arnold Wagner retired from his company Peraves CH.
The new management decided to go the full electric way aka BEV, because of a) .
They participated in the X-Prize competition in 2010, achieving first and second place in their category
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/x-prize-winner-e-tracer-powered-by-ac-propulsion-electric-drive-system/

3. The successor engine to our Flying Brick, the K1200/1300 engines were entirely different:
They had a conventional layout which meant transverse, forward leaning cylinders and left-hand side driveshaft. That new layout would have meant a complete redesign of the rear compartement of the Monotracer.

4. BMW stopped producing the K1300 engine in 2015 because it would not meet the new Euro 4 emission standarts as of Jan 1st, 2016.

5. Peraves CZ would have to meet the same emission standarts as of Jan 1st, 2016.

6. The next generation engine, the K1600 transverse inline six meeting the stricter emission standarts would not fit inside the Monotracer.

And to your second point:
Peraves CH were more than happy to meet any customer's wish.
AFAIK, some eight vehicles had a turbo grafted to the venerable Flying Brick engine, featuring up to 190 HP. Go figure.
The initial K100's components were designed to handle some 90 HP, considered more than enough back in 1985.
Increasing power is literally pushing the envelope of the whole driving train i.e. the clutch, gearbox, shaft and final drive.

Even if Wagner's latest child, the Monoracer 130E featuring some 130kW still has the first generation monolever final drive...
https://krafteier.de/cabinmotorcycles/ *
*go and click the Union Jack flag in the upper right corner to read in English


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60Back to top Go down   K75 GS conversion - Page 2 Empty Re: K75 GS conversion Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:34 pm

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jbt wrote:
The biggest problem is the long final ratio that comes from a K1100LT: I wish sometimes I have a shorter 1st gear.
Maybe I'll try to transplant the OEM k75 bevel drive into the paralever case.

The K75 bevel is a good idea, as there is no difference in the low gearbox ratios there is no point changing the internals for K 75 I guess.

I did Put a K75 bevel on my K100LT a few years back and it made a great diffence to low speed riding in traffic.


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K1 - 1989 - AKA Titan (unique K1/K1100RS hybrid by Andreas Esterhammer)
K1100RS - 1995. AKA Rudolf Von Schmurf (in a million bits)
K100RS - 1991 AKA Ronnie. Cafe racer project bike
K75RTP - 1994
K75C - 1991 AKA Jim Beam. In boxes. 
K1100LT 1992 - AKA Big Red (gone)
K100LT - 1988 - AKA the Bullion brick. Should never have sold it.
    

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