I have to say , as much as I enjoyed my brief but enjoyable ride down the Putty Rd to Grey Gum Cafe , The weekend was best had by the Krew riding south to Jindabyne . Well done everyone . Good to see all went well , considering the forecasts in the various regions . Cheers .

Just downloaded the weekend track from my GPS and have created a Google Map for anyone who would like to follow our adventures to the Snowy Mountains for 2017. My round trip was 1,885 kilometres.

I've marked our various stopping places. When you click on the link be patient and it should open in Google Maps if you have them available on your computer. You can then zoom in & out etc. to look at the detail.

Gaz round trip Snowy Ride 2017.

Cheers, enjoy.

Wow - that's certainly true dedication! 3040km, 2600km, 1885km..1800km!! Fantastic effort by all and really glad that the weather mostly turn out kind for you. 

Good to see the map Gaz - really puts it in perspective and shows some lovely twist turns. Another couple of hundred yards and you'd have been over the border into Victoria (do they have a Trumpesque fence to keep the NSWalers out?). Even more impressive when you think that RickG started on the otherside of the border in Queensland!

Nice job.

We do have fences rather than walls between some states, such as the Rabbit Proof Fence and others. These were built to keep vermin out, but RickG is not included. Rabbits, dingos are the main targets and we have a water fence to keep Tasmania apart from the rest of us.
Weirder than a fence we have border searches to check for fruit...a real no no to carry it between some states.

Born Again Eccentric wrote:Wow - that's certainly true dedication! 3040km, 2600km, 1885km..1800km!! Fantastic effort by all and really glad that the weather mostly turn out kind for you. 

Good to see the map Gaz - really puts it in perspective and shows some lovely twist turns. Another couple of hundred yards and you'd have been over the border into Victoria (do they have a Trumpesque fence to keep the NSWalers out?). Even more impressive when you think that RickG started on the otherside of the border in Queensland!

Nice job.

NSWalers don't need a fence as we have the formidable defence of the Murray River, with carefully regulated crossing points. 

A bonus is that the actual border is the South bank of the river, giving NSW gunboats full freedom of navigation in their defensive task. The fact that those South of the border are so sneaky means that many of the gunboats disguise themselves as ski boats with crew disguised as skiers.
Some Victorians attempt penetration by disguising themselves as skiers as well, but are usually prevented from accessing the North bank. 

Bill

It was a top extended week end and great to catch up with everyone - thanks again Bill for organising.

ainsjac wrote:We do have fences rather than walls between some states, such as the Rabbit Proof Fence and others. These were built to keep vermin out, but RickG is not included. 

 
For the rest of the vermin, you have visas!

ainsjac wrote:Weirder than a fence we have border searches to check for fruit...a real no no to carry it between some states.

Talking of weird, on my recent sortie into Texas and New Mexico, when taking a trip out to the White Sands Visitor centre for a look see, we had to go through a US Border post check point nearly 95 miles from the border with Mexico. That's like entering the UK through Portsmouth and having another border check point in Bristol or Oxford! Luckily we had our passports handy or it could have been orange jumpsuits and a one way ticket to Gitmo for us!

indian036 wrote:NSWalers don't need a fence as we have the formidable defence of the Murray River, with carefully regulated crossing points.    

A bonus is that the actual border is the South bank of the river, giving NSW gunboats full freedom of navigation in their defensive task. The fact that those South of the border are so sneaky means that many of the gunboats disguise themselves as ski boats with crew disguised as skiers.
Some Victorians attempt penetration by disguising themselves as skiers as well, but are usually prevented from accessing the North bank.   

I know that maps (and GPSs can be deceptive) and what looks like a road from the comfort of you armchair, can often turn out to be a derelict goat track, but it looks like the NSW river patrols messed up and allowed the waterskiing Victorians to gain a foot hold north of the mighty Murray...either that or the river has silted up on the north bank. Some serious spade work required to set the border back to where it is supposed to be. Maybe it's just Googlemaps artistic licence?

Anyone lose a summit mattress in a red cover on the weekend?
See http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/lost-and-found.1212757/

Thanks for posting that up Andrew but none of us were on that road this weekend. I get down there for the Alpine rally and usually have to get my dentures refitted after it.

Gaz wrote:Just downloaded the weekend track from my GPS and have created a Google Map for anyone who would like to follow our adventures to the Snowy Mountains for 2017. My round trip was 1,885 kilometres.

I've marked our various stopping places. When you click on the link be patient and it should open in Google Maps if you have them available on your computer. You can then zoom in & out etc. to look at the detail.

Gaz round trip Snowy Ride 2017.

Cheers, enjoy.

Hi Gaz,

Thanks for the map.  I looked up my map from 2015 to see what the differences were, as I thought I remembered riding some different roads.  In 2015 I rode in the opposite direction, and went the long way around bypassing Jagumba and Cabramurra, instead going via Tooma and stopping for lunch at Tumbarumba.  A bit further and some new twists and turns.  Maybe food for thought for next year!

Cheers,
Nods 

The nods route

Our Rabbit proof fence is a very good thing to have. It has successfully stopped the rabbits on the southern side of the fence breeding with the rabbits on the northern side.

Born Again Eccentric wrote:  
I know that maps (and GPSs can be deceptive) and what looks like a road from the comfort of you armchair, can often turn out to be a derelict goat track, but it looks like the NSW river patrols messed up and allowed the waterskiing Victorians to gain a foot hold north of the mighty Murray...either that or the river has silted up on the north bank. Some serious spade work required to set the border back to where it is supposed to be. Maybe it's just Googlemaps artistic licence?

At that end of the border, in the vicinity of the headwaters of the Murray, there has probably been some changes in the river channel, with different anabranches dominating over time. The border was set by survey over a hundred years ago. 
The river in that area is too shallow and narrow to be safely skiable, so our normal border defences don't work. 
Please don't tell the Victorians, though. We hope to be able to continue bluffing them. 

Bill

nods wrote:Hi Gaz,

Thanks for the map.  I looked up my map from 2015 to see what the differences were, as I thought I remembered riding some different roads.  In 2015 I rode in the opposite direction, and went the long way around bypassing Jagumba and Cabramurra, instead going via Tooma and stopping for lunch at Tumbarumba.  A bit further and some new twists and turns.  Maybe food for thought for next year!

Cheers,
Nods 

The nods route

Re next year:

In 2016 we rode the same route as this year, but in the direction you rode in 2015.

Assuming people want to do another ride in that area next year, I'm open to suggestions. A couple of people raised the possibility of a run down to the coast next time. 
A bit early to make firm decisions, but at this stage I'd be happy to coordinate again. 

I've suggested to my son that we may be able to have some free camping at what we hope will be his newly completed house on what I cheekily call The Estate, out of Cooma. He countered that there may be a fee!
Gaz, you might have to con him into thinking you're still his boss and disabuse him of that notion. 

Whichever way, whatever the Krew decides will be fine by me.

Assuming it's on, foreign visitors will be most  .

Bill