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1Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:21 am

rapt

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So  I have just re-assembled my K100 after stripping it down and got it started up after 6 months of being apart. 

I was looking in to running a Lithium battery so I though I would check the Voltage. 

The Charge voltage is sitting at 16.7v. This is much too high to run a lithium battery and more than likely too high for the rest of the bike. 
I confirmed my meter was not wrong by checking it on a battery charger that was 13v.

Any ideas what could be causing this?

    

2Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:41 am

Dai

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Almost certainly a faulty regulator. However, before definately fingering the reg,

1.Check the alternator bulb on the dashpanel lights - it does light when you turn the ignition key on?
2. Before starting the bike, check that you have twelve-ish volts on the blue wire that connects to the top of the alternator (probably a redundant check because if the genny bulb is blown then there shouldn't be any voltage but... you could have a short circuit.
3. If 1 and 2 fail, pull the alternator and check the brushes for length or for being stuck in the housing.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

3Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:55 am

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Dai

Spot on.

We had a discussion on that subject yesterday, being with some Honda owners. They fingered the effect of a faulty regulator in alternators like the BMW one as being exactly that, excess voltage.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

4Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:14 am

rapt

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Dai wrote:Almost certainly a faulty regulator. However, before definately fingering the reg,

1.Check the alternator bulb on the dashpanel lights - it does light when you turn the ignition key on?
2. Before starting the bike, check that you have twelve-ish volts on the blue wire that connects to the top of the alternator (probably a redundant check because if the genny bulb is blown then there shouldn't be any voltage but... you could have a short circuit.
3. If 1 and 2 fail, pull the alternator and check the brushes for length or for being stuck in the housing.


The gene bulb is either blown or has been knocked and there is no voltage on the blue wire with the ignition on and the bulb is not lit.

I relocated the bulb it to the inside of the fuse box so it lights up the fuse cover after I installed an acewell speedo when I first got the bike. I will remove the tank to check it tomorrow as it was working earlier on today before I started the bike.

Could a blown genny bulb cause the high voltage? From what I read it would mean the charge circuit would not kick in on most bikes.
I will also check the brushes tomorrow.

    

5Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:08 am

Dai

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Got it in one. A blown genny bulb will cause the high voltage because the regulator will never kick in.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

6Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:55 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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That's worth a Black Bush.....! For Dai.

Now wondering when will we get our first forum member visitor from NZ..


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

7Back to top Go down   16.7v from the Alternator Empty Re: 16.7v from the Alternator Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:22 am

Dai

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Easy Very Happy Over-voltage = regulator, under-voltage = rectifier. Well, most of the time!


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

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