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1Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:06 am

Grizzly

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I have noticed from looking at a few photos of peoples K's that I appear to have a totally different seat to any other I have seen!

Instead of the grab handles for the pillion rider being part of the rear panel, they are actually on the seat and come up when the seat is lifted for access to the relay box, etc.

Was this a standard seat on only certain models or have I got a rather strange/rare bike?

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2Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:25 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Up to 85 the hsndles are on the seat. Then the seat and the rear moulding were changed to have the handles in the rear moulding instead of the seat. I think August 85.

Your VIN seems much earlier than 86. Mine is 0022575 and is August 84.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

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3Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:01 am

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Griz according to Real OEM your bike is a K100 made 5/85


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4Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:12 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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RicK G wrote:Griz according to Real OEM your bike is a K100 made 5/85

Meaning the seat with the handles is the correct one......also has the older gas tank that is held down with the single bolt at the rear......watch that if you are buying parts.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

5Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:13 am

Dai

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Also the later seat bases with the separate handles are wider than the earlier ones.


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6Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:50 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Dai wrote:Also the later seat bases with the separate handles are wider than the earlier ones.

I didn't know that but it explains why the 84RT is much more manageable in town than the 92LT......and puts paid to my thoughts of putting a later seat on the RT.....wider is not good for me.

Corkboy had a very nice seat on his K1100LT when we met last Saturday...got it done locally so its called a Munster seat. Pat O'D got his done in the same place and he is to be recommended.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

7Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:25 am

Dai

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It's not by much Olaf. I bought a complete s/h RS body kit to (eventually) make LFB look something like respectable; what I didn't realise until I got it home was that it was off a later K100 - possibly even an 8V model. I found out when I pulled the tank for cleaning. Much later still I discovered that the seat hump with the separate handles was wider too.

It wasn't the disaster it could have been because I got them off John Tilley and he's quite happy to swap them for the earlier versions. I really should pull the wee finger out and do that.


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8Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:14 am

92KK 84WW Olaf

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Dai

The LT was marginal for me on height, especially as it had the Comfort seat which I love. The difference to the RT was therefore very big and I found the RT much more manageable in town and in tight spaces. Was the same reason I once upon a time had to settle for the Honda CB500-4 instead of the CB750-4.

That has made up my mind on seats and seeing what Corkboy's looked like that's what I will go for.
We missed you at the Brunch but am sure you will make up for that. Are you feeling any better?


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

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I was most impressed with Corkboy's seat and sorry I didn't picture it for future reference. 

Best way to describe it is; a Comfort seat which has had the Rider's seat sculpted to the shape of a Corbin (but softer) whilst leaving the pillion one as standard. This has the effect of making the front look rounder, The back squarer and a more visible step in the levels from back to front. All neatly recovered in Black upholstery.


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10Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:51 pm

Grizzly

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92KK 84WW Olaf wrote:
RicK G wrote:Griz according to Real OEM your bike is a K100 made 5/85

Meaning the seat with the handles is the correct one......also has the older gas tank that is held down with the single bolt at the rear......watch that if you are buying parts.

It doesn't have that style of tank. The tank has no bolts holding it down. It has two 'pins' (for want of a better word) that locate into two rubber grommets in the frame.

Is my bike a 'BITSA'?


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11Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:13 pm

92KK 84WW Olaf

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I went to a different one, www.bmbikes.co.uk and it gives 06/85 for manufacture date for a K100 Basic.


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1992 K100LT 0193214 Bertha Blue 101,000 miles
1984 K100RT 0022575 Brutus Baja Red 578 bought 36,000 now 89,150 miles
1997 K1100LT 0188024 Wotan Mystic Red 689 58,645 now 106,950 miles Deceased.
1983 K100RS 0011157 Fricka 606 Alaska Blue 29,495 miles Damn K Pox Its a Bat outta Hell Now 58,200 miles. 
1996 K1100LT 0233004 Lohengrin Mystic Red 38,000 miles currently 51,800 miles.
1983 K100RS 0004449 Odette R100 colours 58,000 miles. Sprint fairing now 63,390 miles

Past:
1968 Yamaha 80 YG1
1971 Yamaha 125 YAS-1
1968 Honda 125 SS
1970 Honda CD 175
1973 Honda CB500-4
Honda CX 500
    

12Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:54 pm

Inge K.

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Grizzly wrote: It has two 'pins' (for want of a better word) that locate into two rubber grommets in the frame. Is my bike a 'BITSA'?

This version was used from 04/85, so it's correct for your model.


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13Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:24 pm

Grizzly

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Ah right.

So was the change over for the seat slightly later than that of the tank then?

If so it would show that mine was made in that 'window' of overlap.



Last edited by Grizzly on Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:29 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Because I am dopey and put the 'seat' and 'tank'the wrong way round!)


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14Back to top Go down   Different Seat Empty Re: Different Seat Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:32 pm

Inge K.

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Grizzly wrote:
So was the change over for the seat slightly later than that of the tank then?

Your version of seat was used until 09/85, which I think 92 earlier have mentioned.
That is the point for the model year change.


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