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1Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:30 am

Dai

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Not the o-ring under the cap, but the rubber u-channel seal around the thermostat itself. Has anyone found a substitute? I refuse to spend £36 to find out if this RT engine runs.


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2Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:47 am

duck

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If you just want to start it up to see if it runs and don't plan on running it for an extended period then I think you'd be OK without a thermostat.



Last edited by duck on Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:10 pm; edited 1 time in total


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86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
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3Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:55 am

Dai

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That's what I'm thinking, Duck. That, or temporarily gluing it in with Threebond. If it runs I'm still going to need a new seal though.


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1987 K100RT
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1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

4Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:14 pm

Laitch

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Dai wrote:. . . temporarily gluing it in with Threebond . . .
It might be worth a try to meet the challenge of replacing a damaged thermostat gasket by applying a bead of Permatex Black Ultra—or its equivalent—to both sides and the edge of the thermostat's flange, letting it cure fully before assembly then assembling and considering it a permanent solution. Smile

Surely, a Brick motorradfahrer somewhere has done that by now and will come forward with a testimonial.


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5Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:42 pm

duck

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I was playing with a used radiator a few months ago and was thinking that if you put a normal O-ring behind it then that might work.  If a little coolant seeps past it then it probably wouldn't be the end of the world.


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

6Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:44 pm

Point-Seven-five

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duck wrote:I was playing with a used radiator a few months ago and was thinking that if you put a normal O-ring behind it then that might work.  If a little coolant seeps past it then it probably wouldn't be the end of the world.
+1 That is the solution I would probably go with.


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1977 Honda XL125
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7Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:42 pm

charlie99

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tridon do a seal for that thermostat

ttg26 is the part number


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8Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:50 pm

Laitch

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charlie99 wrote:tridon do a seal for that thermostat  ttg26 is the part number
Tridon ttg26


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9Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:51 pm

Dai

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I glued it in with a good dollop of Threebond in the end. I figured that as cylinder heads get a lot hotter than coolant, the Threebond should be reasonably leakproof.

Charlie: that's got my attention. Thank you.


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1987 K100RT
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10Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:00 pm

charlie99

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Laitch wrote:
charlie99 wrote:tridon do a seal for that thermostat  ttg26 is the part number
Tridon ttg26

thanks Laitch

couldn't post a pic that I had , seems the widget for the file upload  has stopped working in the last couple of days  for me


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

11Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:10 am

Dai

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Hokee... I've asked if they'll ship me half-a-dozen and how much.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

12Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:54 pm

Dai

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No luck. They don't export overseas.




Thank you for your email. Tridon Australia is an independently owned Australian company. We only distribute Tridon products throughout Australia and New Zealand. We do not have any links to the Tridon Brand or companies in other areas of the world, therefore unfortunately I cannot help you with your request. Toledo export clamps are available to be exported (there would be a minimum quantity & order value on these products).



Thank you & Regards Tridon Sales/Customer Service


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

13Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Thermostat seal Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:34 pm

redrockmania

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Dai - Looking on eBay I note a number of sellers offering the Tridon thermostat seal refer to the seal being suitable for several different Toyota Landcruiser engines, a VW Beete engine and a 1500 VW Kharman Ghia. This could provide you with suitable alternatives to the Tridon seal. Hope this helps.

    

14Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:29 pm

MartinW

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Dai on Ebay they are shown as fitting heaps of different vehicles. Mazda MX5 1.8, Mazda 2 1.5,Daewoo Kalos 1.5, Toyota Spacia 2.0, Toyota Cressida 2.0, Diahatsu Rocky 2.0 are just a few. If none of these are suitable go to OZ Ebay and type in Tridon ttg26 and it will give you more vehicle fitment choices.
Regards Martin.


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15Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:05 am

Dai

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As it happens, Bill (Indian036) is on the case. Very Happy If all goes well, I'll have a handful to distribute around the Eccentrics and the UK at cost.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

16Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:14 am

duck

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In order to avoid needing one it's best not to fiddle with the thermostat in the first place.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."


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Current stable:
86 Custom K100 (standard fairing, K75 Belly pan, Ceramic chromed engine covers, paralever)
K75 Frankenbrick (Paralever, K11 front end, hybrid ABS, K1100RS fairing, radial tires)
86 K75C Turbo w/ paralever
94 K1100RS
93 K1100LT
91 K1
93 K75S (K11 front end)
91 K75S (K1 front end)
14 Yamaha WR250R
98 Taxi Cab K1200RS
14 K1600GT
http://www.ClassicKBikes.com
    

17Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:16 am

Dai

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Normally - yes. In this case I had a leaky rad with a thermostat and a non-leaky rad without a thermostat.


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1983 K100 naked upgraded to K100LT spec after spending time as an RS and an RT
1987 K100RT
Others...
1978 Moto Guzzi 850-T3, 1979 Moto Guzzi 850-T3 California,1993 Moto Guzzi 1100ie California
2020 Royal Enfield Bullet 500
    

18Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:53 am

charlie99

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Dai wrote:As it happens, Bill (Indian036) is on the case. Very Happy If all goes well, I'll have a handful to distribute around the Eccentrics and the UK at cost.

good onya Bill


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cheezy grin whilst riding, kinda bloke ....oh the joy !!!! ...... ( brick aviator )

'86 K100 RT..#0090401 ..."Gerty" ( Gertrude Von Clickandshift ) --------O%O
'86 k100 rs.. #######..  "Fred " (f(rame) red ) ( Fredrick leichtundschnell ) - -
bits and pieces from many kind friends across the k100 world ...with many thanks ..
1987 k100rs ########   "Red"  - (red sports rs TWB style )
1989 K100rt #009637   "Black Betty"  (naked rt ala Nigel , now sporting an rs main fairing )
    

19Back to top Go down   Thermostat seal Empty Re: Thermostat seal Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:47 pm

Suzi Q

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Rubber u-shaped edging seal (search 'rubber u seal' on oohbay, costs about five pence a kilometer) cut and stick the ends together with...something? Should survive in hot coolant.

Or spend a while on the interweb checking out the diameters of other manufacturers thermostat seals (very boring option)


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